Elizabeth Warren's DNA test says there was a Native American ancestor 6 -10 generations ago....

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  1. Pollycy

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    Elizabeth Warren's DNA test says there was a Native American ancestor 6 -10 generations ago....

    Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wa...merican-heritage-firing-back-at-trump-attacks
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...rican-issue/YEUaGzsefB0gPBe2AbmSVO/story.html

    Six to ten generations ago? And she used THAT to leverage all the advantages of being a "minority"?

    "The Boston Herald reported that Warren had previously been touted in the 1990s by officials at Harvard Law School, where she was a tenured professor, as an example of the faculty’s diversity. That led to the revelation that Warren — citing only anecdotal evidence — claimed to be part Cherokee and Delaware Indian, and had listed herself as a minority in a directory of law professors from 1986 until 1995." Link: https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/elizabeth-warrens-pocahontas-controversy/

    But, really -- SIX TO TEN GENERATIONS AGO?! Is that supposed to impress anybody? :roflol:. Honestly, if I had been 'Pocahontas' Warren, I'd probably have kept that genetic discovery strictly to myself.... :lol:
     
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    6-10? Pretty big spread there. Doesn't sound very "sciencey" to me.
     
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    It would appear that you are seriously trying for a angle to dispute now, a proven part of her heritage. Good luck, if the test is accurate, she is part native American, just as she has claimed. I'd suggest not beating a dead horse here.......you'd have a better chance challenging the veracity of the DNA test.
     
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    Six to ten generations?! C'mon, Thor, even though you are a dyed-in-the-wool liberal Democrat, surely this 'Pocahontas' claim to be a MINORITY based on this kind of crap (even if true) is absolutely laughable!

    At an average calculation of 35 years per generation, that means that there is evidence of an Indian being one of Warren's ancestors back somewhere between the years of 1739 and 1599...?! She was born in June of 1949 -- you do the math!

    Don't misunderstand me -- I despise all of this 'reverse discrimination', affirmative-action nonsense and think that this national obsession we've had with race is a disgrace. But deliberately using that to push one's own career as Warren obviously has, for an advantage over others, is just slightly less than CRIMINAL, in my not-so humble opinion.... But the amazing thing is that with something as obviously thread-bare as THIS test result is, how could she be so stupid as to release it for all to see?! :spin:
     
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    10 generations removed? What % would that be? 1/.0000000000000000000214%?
     
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    Can you provide objective evidence that she ever used her heritage for personal gain?
     
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    Bustamante calculated that Warren’s pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That timing fits Warren’s family lore, passed down during her Oklahoma upbringing, that her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American.

    Seems Trump owes her favorite charity a million bucks. Watch this one spin.
     
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    Beats hell out of me... I wasn't a Math-major, and my calculator can't handle those numbers.... But 'Pocahontas' didn't have to do any calculations, either -- no, all she had to do was assert some kind of half-assed CLAIM to be a "minority" and the gullible, hyperliberal idiots she played like a piano fell for it completely. In a way, I have to congratulate her for her guile and craftiness.... :twisted:
     
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    You are making assumptions, I am a never Trumper, NEVER. And yes, you are searching for an angle to dispute her proven heritage....shame on you but totally expected.
     
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    On the contrary, scientists do not deal in false absolutes. There is always margin for error and openness to being proven wrong, because science is always based on the known facts and one rarely knows all of the facts in full, especially about such a complex matter as genetics. 6-10 generations ago suggests that the exact number of genes will vary from individual to individual. Since genetic inheritance and mutation is inherently random, there will simply always be a degree of uncertainty without other corroborating evidence.
     
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    "Bustamante calculated that Warren’s pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That timing fits Warren’s family lore...." ?

    It 'fits' the family lore? Based on WHAT? The American Indians did not have a written language, and they didn't issue "birth certificates". The 'ancestor' indicated in this test could have existed anywhere between 1739 on back to 1599 (using the nominal value of 35 years for a "generation").

    All this proves is that Elizabeth Warren was expert at GAMING THE SYSTEM! :hippie:
     
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    Pony up the money Donnie, even if it's rubles or Saudi gold.
     
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    I haven't "searched" for anything, Thor. I have simply stated FACTS. You haven't responded to a single one of the facts I've presented....
    Who exactly were your 'ancestors' going back to 1739? How about 1599? I'm sure mine were a bunch of German peasants, probably drunk on wine somewhere in the Rhineland, but who can know for sure? We may agree that even 1739 was a hell of a long time ago....

    One thing IS for sure, however -- I never tried to parlay my 'ancestry' into getting an unfair, disgusting advantage over other people in order to succeed in life!
     
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    She never claimed anything different.
    We are still waiting for how she gamed the system.
    And we are waiting for Trump to pay up.

    "I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian," Trump said at the time. "I have a feeling she will say 'no.' "
     
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    Six generations is around 1.5% and ten generations would be around 0.2%. My own spouse is at 3% so it is probably a great deal more common than most people even realize.
     
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    It will probably be in the form of a stack of gifts cards to a Tanning Salon.
     
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    Do you think that this will prompt Trump and minions to stop calling her Pocahontas? Not a chance. They've already made up their minds.
     
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    Derailing your own thread is quite ironic trying to make it about me. Warren has native American DNA as she has claimed. Deal with this like an adult.
     
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    It is very likely much "more common than most people even realize", Te, I agree. And with it being relatively "common" there should not (NOT) have been some big hooptie claim for Warren to make for being a MINORITY, and getting unfair advantages in life and career because of it.
     
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    Sounds like she is descended from Pocahontas.
     

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