https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...ren_in_us_raise_questions_about_gun_laws.html In America, gun violence — unlike the movies — knows no age restriction. On Saturday a 4-year-old boy near Nashville accidentally shot and killed the 48-year-old wife of a local county sheriff’s deputy. On Sunday in Lavinia, Tenn., a 2-year-old pulled the trigger of a 9-mm Glock pistol, wounding his 22-year-old mother as she slept with her three-week-old baby. The gun had been kept under the mother’s pillow. On Monday — the same day Brandon Holt was shot — a 4-year-old girl in Baltimore was hit by bullets as she sat with her 23-year-old father in a parked car. The father was also wounded. And on Tuesday, a 3-year-old boy accidentally killed himself while playing with a gun he found in an apartment in Sumter, S.C. **** happens in real life.
No, it's known as criminal activity, in most states it is a felony to leave un- ecured firearms where children can access them.
But it's not that, felonies are not chit happening, they are intentional acts based on thoughtless behavior.
You are the one not thinking this through, stowing a firearm is not a chit happens choice, it's a conscious decision which requires both following the appropriate laws and a level of common sense to prevent unauthorized access to the firearm, you just don't take a firearm and drop it into a dresser drawer and close it, it needs to be stored securely and if not used as a defense weapon, it should be stored unloaded for both safety and to allow the hammer to be dropped so the spring doesn't take a set. If it's a defensive firearm then it must be stored in a manner the not only prevents unauthorized access, but allows quick and quiet access to the firearm when it is needed. And this is not just to protect children, it needs to be properly stored to prevent it from being used against the owner or others during a burglary, I can not imagine how pissed I would be to come home and be robbed with my own firearm. What it comes down to is, with firearms, a responsible owner must take steps to prevent so called chit happens events, anyone who thinks chit happens with firearms doesn't understand much about them and is probably not qualified to own one. With rights comes responsibilities and while firearms are nothing more than a tool, they can be a very dangerous tool in the hands of someone not trained in their proper use and preventing that is the responsibility of every responsible firearm owner, when I did firearm safety training, most of the students where first time firearm owners mostly pistol owners and very few of them ever considered storage. When I would ask the question how are you going to store your firearm when it is not in use, the most common answer was I don't know, as we would get into the proper methods of storage most realized the answer can be complex, I would commonly hear answers like I don't have children, so do I need to really keep my gun locked up, my answer would be, how do you think it would work out if your alarm went off and one of the responding officers where shot with your improperly stored firearm, how would you live with that, if you didn't go to prison. Or you come home to find your home burglarized and your gun is missing, do you realize you just placed a gun on the streets in the hands of a criminal, if it gets used in a crime and the cops find that gun it will be traced back to you, how's that going to work out? That's why when I see something posted like "chit happens" when it comes to firearms, I realize I am not dealing with a person who understands firearms or their proper storage methods, all they can do is toss out media about children getting access to guns with no real background as to how they obtained them. Now whats really pathetic is the lack of safety training children get when it comes to firearms, a couple of years back a friend of mine brought a radio over to my home to be serviced, programmed and aligned, his wife was out of town on business so he had his daughter with him, she was around 11 at the time, having no interest in radio and not being able to get her pad to connect to my WiFi she was bored and antsy so I let her use my PC to go online and have some fun while we worked on the radio, now on the desk to her right was a pistol, I went to pick it up and she commented you don't need to move that, I will not touch it, I cannot touch any gun unless my dad is with me and he says I can touch it, I asked her if she would like to shoot it, she got a big smile and stated yes I would love to shoot it if my dad says I can, he agreed she could and I told her we will go out back to my range after I get the radio working. We went out back, I showed her how to unload and reload the gun, placed it on the bench unloaded stepped back and watched, that child picked the gun up and followed every safety rule to the T, she had been trained by someone in gun safety and as a child was gun proof, has she ever come across a gun for any reason, she wouldn't accidentally shoot a friend and any child eight years or over can be trained to be gun proof. If more parents had their children trained in gun safety, a lot of this children killing children with guns wouldn't be happening, but too many parents are not teaching their children anything nor less gun safety and then they blame the gun when some tragic happens, which is totally screwed up. The parent, not the gun or the child is responsible for the tragic event, their lack of proper storage and training caused the problem no one else, but we live in a society where responsibility is shifted from the root cause to something else, few people will take responsibility for their actions or lack of actions.
Young children are sponges; teach them appropriately and they will behave appropriately. I would venture to say teaching children gun safety is a lost parental skill, in part because many parents have never learned proper gun safety themselves. But, yes, to a large degree children learn by observing, meaning you can teach by the do as I say, not as I do method. You must completely exemplify what you teach; you are the role model. I started with my girls while they were young and always exemplified what I wanted them to learn and continually narrated my actions and quizzed them on an ongoing basis, not just with gun safety, but for many life survival skills. If we observed someone doing something incorrectly, it was always an opportunity to ask.... ‘did you see that? Was that done correctly? Why or why not? People in this country don’t realize, children as young as 5 fight in wars in some areas of the world. I was raised in a war environment, and you’d be surprised what I involved in long before turning 10. Children are capable of learning far more than most realize. Usually, in my experience, if someone, any one at any age isn’t learning, it is often because the teacher doesn’t understand how to teach and faults the student. Teaching is the responsibility of the teacher, not the solely the burden of the student. BTW, I sometimes conduct a ‘When things go wrong’ gun workshop, where among other things I teach the gun safety protocols you never learned and what to do when things fail. I have had many gun veterans comment they learned to take gun safety to a new level of awareness. Think that gun you just cleared is safe? Bet your life on it? That demon you herd rumors about that loads gun when you aren’t looking... I am that demon. But fortunately, I also completely control the situation. Or, in the ‘things fail’ sessions...’think a revolver can’t fail?, if it did, what would you do when your life depends on it?’ How about your AR? A double feed in your 1911? You gun goes click and not bang when you are under the timer? This workshop is part magic and part controlled shock (on my part), such that what is learned is brain burned learning, not easily forgotten. My children’s version of the gun safety course wakes children up, and teaches in a manner that lessons are not easily forgotten. But, I always require the parents to participate; they must be equipped to exemplify the role of a parent being safe with guns and learn how to continually reinforce the learning on an ongoing basis, the same as they would continually reinforce courtesy, respect, and other social behaviors.
By any mesure no modern countries on earth even come close to the USA in its gun loving stupidity. Now, take your time and try to list even one.
There is no such as gun loving stupidity other than to a rabid anti-gunner, in the U.S. there are by CDC measurements somewhere between 200,000 to over 2,000,000 million times per year where law abiding people use firearms to prevent themselves from becoming victims of a violent crime. And once again knock off the personal insults, if you cannot you will be modded.
And many more including childrens are killed by them. Now will you go cry to the mods, as if I gave a damn about them just like I don't give a **** about you, or will you instead man up and list those modern coutries you said were just as crappy as the USA when it comes to guns incidents. US Guns nuts... Your whole nation is going to the crapper, let see how those guns will help you. Ever seen those shithole african nations? They also have plenty of guns and soon you'll be just like them, broken and in a perpetual civil war.
Totally false, and you cannot find any numbers to prove me incorrect. . Now you are lying, I never made such a statement. Again totally false and you have zero facts to back up that lie with.
Yet another personal insult indicating you have run out of anything to back up your totally false lies about firearms. Very typical for a anti-gunner, as lies are all you have to work with to push your anti-gun agenda.
Poor little billy bob. So sad that guns are there to compensate to your evident lack of manhood. Good thing for you that you have some form of farm animal to keep you busy.
Again more personal attacks, that speaks volumes about who you are actually are, you cannot debate, all you are capable of is tossing out personal insults. That's really sad, you could be much more better than that if you tried, but I guess you cannot go there.
PF isn't a place to debate. It's a place to troll and flamebait. It stopped being a "political" forum years ago.
And you seem to part of that trouble, you cannot debate, once you lose a debate, you drop low and go with personal insults. Very sad. But don't blame the forum for that, you decided to go there.
