Empire of Lies and its chief liar

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  1. RUS

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    Could you please explain why you put the word "facts" in quotation marks?:smile:

    1) In the Donbas several Ukrainian military planes were shot down. It is a fact.
    2) The President of Ukraine said that in Donbass is a war. - It is a fact.
    3) Closing of the war's territory Donbass didn't do the difficulties for civilian aircraft. - It is a fact.
    4) The President of Ukraine didn't closed the war's territory for civil war planes - it is a fact.

    5) As a result of the fact № 4, the civilian aircraft MN17 was there, where he was not supposed to be.Over the territory of war, where planes shot down. - It is a fact, too.



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    Because ruSSia TV can tell only 'facts'. Not facts [: But you know English language and can find facts, but you are writing something you would be living in the middle of Siberian swamps where Internet is not available only TV of Putlerstan [:
     
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    The conversation is about the facts that I have mentioned in the post 818.
    You do put the word facts in quotation marks.
    Why? :)

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    Because Pulerstan don't give facts [: In Putlerstan there is no free word. Everybody knows is [:
     
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    As it is there is no free speech in Russia! And Putin's words, is not free? Putin always says what he wants. For Russia, this is enough.
     
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    It was found that Russian hackers broke into the server of the Bundestag. Moreover, they are spreading false information. Improv Lie is trying to deceive the whole world to justify their aggressive plans.
     
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    What are the plans?
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    Empire of Lies started a dispute with Belarus over oil and gas prices. Lukashenko said:
    "Belarus will do without Russian oil, if on the other side of the scale will be independence. Belarus has the right to reduce the price of Russian gas. Why grab a chord? Why are we taking the throat? Well, it is clear that without the Russian oil we will do. We will be very difficult . Jaroslav (Romanchuk, a former presidential candidate and prominent liberal economist - Ed.) will say that it is unprofitable, inefficient, but freedom and independence - it is very cost-effective, and it is not assessed no money and no numbers. " https://ria.ru/world/20170203/1487136016.html

    Near the time when all of Putin's Russia will jump as leprosy.
     
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    You did not say anything about "aggressive plans". Hence it was your next joke?:smile:
     
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    Even Belarus shies away from Putin's Russia. Thus, Putin's proposal to place in Belarus 20 aircraft military space forces of Russia, Lukashenko refused, saying that the Belarusian pilots can also fly as well as Russian. Give us the planes, we are your allies.https://ria.ru/world/20170203/1487136016.html
    Lukashenko understands what kind of threat to the independence of Belarus carries Russian military base.
     
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    20 aircraft on the territory of Belarus - is a threat to the independence ...
    (*)(*)(*)And the whole Russian army, regardless of location - it is not a threat? .:smile:.. For Belarus?

    Belarus does not shies away. Belarus is living on subsidies from Russia. Lukashenko wants to be president and father of the nation ... at the expense of Russia. That's all.
     
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    So do not give grants, who urges Russia to give subsidies? But this does not mean that Belarus must follow the instructions of Putin Fuhrer.
     
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    If Putin was a "Fuhrer", then Belarus would be forced to follow the instructions of Putin.
    Belarus does not follow the instructions of Putin, so Putin is not Fuhrer. It is logical?:smile:
     
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    Really?

    As far as Lukaschenko followed the will of Putin, everything was fine and he was amongst other issues, well supported by cheap gas and petrol for his country.
    Since Lukaschenko started to flirt with the West a little bit, Russia builds up Border controls suddenly and raise gas and petrol prices. A fool who thinks now some bad things in this direction, eh?
     
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    1 ... You cheated. Putin did not raise the price of gas. Lukashenko has long not pay full price for the contract.

    2 ... Lukashenko has opened visa-free regime for foreigners. For this reason, Russia has introduced the passport control at the border.
    More reason - Ukrainian saboteurs go to Russia via Belarus ..

    and Lukashenko delivers products from Western Europe, against which Russia has announced retaliatory sanctions.

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    Lukashenko as president of Belarus - this is the best president.
    Lukashenko, as the ally of Russia - it is full of feces
     
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    Really? Even if you are right what is not the case ... I must wonder why it is suddenly a point when for decades it was not!

    Reality:
    In 2006, the price at which Gazprom supplied natural gas to Belarus amounted to 46 US dollars per 1000 m³. It was a very discounted price, which was about 1/6 of the usual price in Western Europe. In the course of the year, Gazprom announced its triple price for Belarus in 2007. The Group justified this with the necessity of market-oriented business relations. The Belarusian President Lukashenko refused to agree to an increase and threatened to draw the gas from the pipelines that were sent to Belarus via Belarus. His demand was that prices for Belarus should be at the level of the Russian Smolensk Oblast, which is, according to him, the prerequisite for a further integration of the two countries. From the dissatisfaction about the concluded gas contract and in response to the Russian export tariff valid from January 2007, Belarus announced on 4 January that, starting from January 1, the additional transit charges would have to be increased from 45 US dollars to every ton of oil, The Belarusian territory. Russia refused to accept this tariff.
    Nothing happened further about then ... until, well until what and then becoming suddenly topic again?

    And Russian saboteur go to Ukraine same way too ... or is it again only silly Propaganda that only evil Ukraine is bad?

    Anyway ... Fact:

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has been trying to get the former Soviet republics back in a boat for many years. But first, the Ukraine left the joint projects after Maidan coup which swept away Pro-Russian government. And now the relations between Moscow and Minsk deteriorate. Even if it is clearly perceptible between Lukashenko and Putin ... everything is still quite harmless. For Putin, it is not so easy to postpone Lukashenko as a puppet of the West with his propaganda media and to make the most irrational conspiratorial assertions as in the case of the Ukraine ... even if Lukashenko is increasingly annoying with pro-Ukrainian and pro-Western statements and actions.
     
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    I do not quite understand the meaning.
    1) If this is - again, in the Russian Empire, ... it is - no.

    2) Putin wants to say .. if Lukashenka would be like feces, rather than an ally, then he will have financial problems.

    Lukashenko takes the money, but did not recognize South Ossetia , Russian Crimea, Abkhazia.
     
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    The Empire of Lies was convicted of attempting a coup in Montenegro.

    Putin thought to take advantage of a significant Russian diaspora in this small country. Under the slogan "to defend the Russian world," Putin understands only the annexation of foreign territories, while in Russia this notorious Russian world is rolling towards the next disintegration of the country.
     
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    I believe that these frenzy separatists simply don't want to be killed.

    Like almost 20 Ukrainian policemen who were killed during "peaceful" protests of Poroshenko and his people in January and February 2014.

    Like more than 40 anti-government protesters who were burnt alive in Odessa in May 2014, after Poroshenko and his people came to power.

    And so on.

    The international community expressed its concern about such facts and demanded from the present Ukrainian authorities to investigate them.

    But the international community does not express any concern that the "investigations" of such crimes have lasted since the spring of 2014 but till now there are no court trials or convicts.
     
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    It seems that Putin's invitation to the White House has a problem. Well, while Trump Putin is not allowed to enter the White House. Putin was invited to Macron and enjoyed the full program. Macron, unlike the formless Olanda, did not stand on ceremony with a liar, telling Putin in person that the Russian media of Russia Today i Sputnik was denied accreditation at his election headquarters because they spread propaganda and lies. At that moment, the sight of the main Russian liar was quite beaten and, usually responding to the reproach, Putin swallowed his lying language, realizing that Makron could add a lot more "flattering" in the same spirit.
     
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    The Lying Empire reaffirms its image: on January 28, during the rally for the boycott of Putin's presidential election, Putin's police stormed Navalny's office allegedly because of a bomb bomb there. http://www.bbc.com/english/news-42835088
    I think that next time the police, so as not to lie and in fact will blow up a bomb there. If Putin already before his first elections blew up houses with residents in Moscow and Volgograd, then this time to blow up some office or to make an explosion in the center of the rally for him is not a problem, because his fate is at stake. In any case, with the loss of power, he can not leave the court, since he is the violator of the constitution, and in fact he gave an oath to observe it.
     
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    Russia has been /is one big lie, right from the beginning, just like former CCCP, current RF, half its territory is stolen lands, and deported locals. 20 yes from now, muscovshchyna won't exist:)..
     
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    Why point the finger at Russia and not at the USA or Israel? :cool:
     
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    First of all, because neither the US, nor are empires in contrast to Russia, and secondly, here is the topic of Russia.
     
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    Pardon me! O.k., Russia bashing it is!
    Shame on Putin for curbing exploitative leaders, fighting Communism, and protecting his country’s interests.

    Is that better?
     

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