Employers Should Not Be Able To Intimidate With Political Views

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  1. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    An employer who intimidates employees over political views should be punished by the law. No one should feel like their employment is contingent on their political views. It is well known that an asymmetric relationship exists in terms of power between employers and employees. Employers should not be able to exploit this imbalance in power to force their political preferences down employees throats.

    Although the following article is from 2012, it illustrates the problem.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/26/can-company-fire-you-for-way-you-vote
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually the reverse is happening. Employers are being intimidated by employees and customers like the cake bakers.
     
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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    Employers should be intimidated by their employees. That's the point of a union. Things were better when we had more unions. It's pretty clear to me that employers are parasites that require terror as a motive to engage in even the most basic human decency.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    O yeah-------------------look what unions did for Detroit.

    BTW your post is probably the most strange post I have ever read on this forum. If there were no employers who would have a job.
     
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    I don't think so. That honor is reserved for you exclusively.

    The continued deterioration of worker's rights and unions in this country is appalling. I'm fortunate enough to live in a state that has aggressive safeguards in place, but many do not.
     
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    During the EU referendum my continued job was explicitly linked to the UK staying in the EU.
    I voted out.
    And I lost it.

    ROFL. I had been employed by a lefty on one of these politics forums. What a laugh.
    Great guy and absolute thanks for employing me.

    Comically, despite having an entirely national based company that traded solely and exclusively within the UK, he had allowed his politics to get the better of him.
    Seeing himself as a bit of a business leader he had been making his case as such. "In the board room we have discussed the negative affects to my company of a Brexit result".
    As a consequence, when that vote manifested, he lost his investment, Hahaha.

    I don't wish him to lose his investment, I like him, but he did rather shoot himself in the foot. Mouth bigger than brain.
    The comedy is not lost on me.

    If you work in the state sector it is career suicide to admit to any right wing political leanings. Learn to swallow it.
     
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    Lol. An article from The Guardian who absolutely will not hire you if you are right wing. No chance at all. Zero.
    It's a left wing propaganda paper FFS.
     
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    Employers should definitely live in fear of the law if they engage in such intimidation.
     
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    Employers don't give us employment, they give us unemployment. They're a barrier of entry to labour. If capital was owned by the commons, work would be as simple as showing up somewhere, having your competence verified, and then participating in a democratic community of workers dedicated to their task.
     
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    Who would want to work for a company that would do that?
     
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    I suppose that no one should feel like they have to tolerate such treatment in the workplace. It should be illegal.
     
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    90% of political bullying and intimidation by employers is done by LW companies like Google.

    But sure, it's all about Romney. Sling more horseshit.

    Left, as usual, thy name is projection.
     
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    The point is that no employer should do it, left, right, middle, zenith, or nadir. It doesn't matter. If Google is doing it, it should be against the law and stopped.
     
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    The author of the this article for one.

    Everyone in the state sector for two.

    Oh yeah a lot of people would work for a company like that. About half of us.
     
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    In the UK, famously, people who voted UKIP were denied children. (For adoption).
    The BBC has quota's to fill.
     
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    You just can't get that far into private sector company management. You might as well have the government make business decisions. My recommendation would be to keep one's political opinions to oneself. Back in the day when I worked for a large corporation I never shared opinions of other employees with anyone. Saved me a lot of trouble. There are plenty of things to talk about at lunch besides politics and gossip.
     
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    In America, votes are private. No one can compel you to say how you voted. If your employer tries to force you to, sue him. However, politics do not belong at work. Keep your political opinions to yourself and just do your job.
     
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    :roflol:
    Funny post.
     
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    Agree.
     
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    Shame Google doesn't have that stance. I’m sure most big tech companies have made
    It quite difficult for anyone center or right of center to feel comfortable at the workplace. Actually it’s already out there. You better be leftist or at least fake it if you expect to have a career now. How incredibly ironic, coming from the party of openness, understanding, empathy and inclusivity. :)
     
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    No. I disagree. Its not a business decision. Its a decision about whether or not you can discriminate against employees based on their political beliefs. What a person's political views are should have no effect whatsoever on there status of employment. If businesses can dictate to employees what political views are acceptable, then you might as well make CEOs kings, because that means that the people who occupy such positions can dictate what public policy will be.

    My recommendation would be that if we don't want to have a monarchy of CEOs then we make strong laws that inflict severe punishment on people and companies that discriminate based on political views. Otherwise people like the Koch brothers will have the power to impose there will on their employees and society in general.

    OK. If that's your choice fine. But someone should not have to live in fear that there political views will result in them being harassed in the workplace.
     
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    That's ok. However, let's suppose your boss likes Trump. He then engages you in conversation saying that the Democrats are a bunch of butthurt losers. If your political leanings are towards the Democrats then you should not have to fear discrimination if you make your views known to him, or indicate that you would prefer not to discuss politics.
     
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    Cough cough Google, Cough cough Amazon, cough cough damn near the whole of Silicon valley. I don't know of anyone fired for not voting for Romeny all the Stories I ve seen are people being canned for expressing even remotely conservative views anywhere in silicon valley.
     
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    If Google or any other company is discriminating based on political views that should not be permitted. However, that said, I have heard this put forward concerning Google. Could you or someone else who shares this view put forward some evidence to support your claim?
     
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