End Affirmative Action. Yes / No & Why

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Should Affirmative Action be ended? Including diversity considerations.

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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    18.4%
  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I'm also indigenous :)
     
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    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    Ms.Johnson had just graduated Harvard with honours and found herself at an interview for that top job...[​IMG]America has Affirmative Action now because racism is wrong....
     
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  3. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How indigenous.
    Your 23AndMe report, pah-leeze
    Mine available on request. Boring. Near 100% Ashkenazi


    Michelle Rodreguez
    and Eva Longoria both be
    20% indigenous.

    And sell themselves as more so ;)

    How so YOU indigenous?

    Euro and Born there ? ? ?
    Like where ever the after birth goes <ploop> on the floor counts?

    :blowkiss:




    Tulsi Gabbard be 25% Samoan!
     
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  4. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The irony ^^^ is palpable. If you believe that racism is wrong (and it is) you would be against affirmative action.
     
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    The problem I have with affirmative action is that the left uses it to remind the black man, women and other minorities that they are inferior and they need help and you wonder why bigots and racists flaunt that old study that claims the average African American IQ is barely above 70.

    Affirmative action isn’t a good thing because of the undesired consequences,

    Affirmative action keeps under educated, unskilled and limited skilled individuals and other minorities from getting their first job, without that first job they cannot rise up or figure out which skill they need to develop or worse they may not get the chance to be bitten by the entrepreneur bug.

    For every one success from affirmative action there are (I don’t know the exact number) a tons of failures.

    It was a well intention program, unfortunately when it’s run by bureaucrats who are experts at missing the points and filling their pockets and look what you have?

    Undesired consequences
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of the reasons for the failures are the mismatches between capabilities and requirements. Placing a C student into a Northwestern undergraduate program is a formula for failure.
     
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  7. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    of course,all the top scientists from all over the world are part of a conspiracy ...just for the money. I hope you share your knowledge with them so you can be rich too.
    Why is it all the Trumper’s see everything as having an ulterior motive. I guess it’s projection
     
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    Yes and everyone should get a long also but there are certain realities. .....women and African Americans have never been judged fairly... They have been denied opportunities for centuries. We have always had white male affirmative-action . people who are opposed to affirmative-action believe that blacks and women aren’t qualified because they get special consideration. Well white males didn’t have to compete with more than half the population so weren’t they getting special consideration? New York City women had to have a higher average to get into the city universities. Wasn’t that affirmative action for males? I am not embarrassed and don’t tell me I should be as one who has fought for equal rights for women. I think it is you who should be embarrassed for pretending that history didn’t put certain groups at disadvantages for hundreds of years
     
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    You mean to say that there aren’t any women or blacks who are A and b students? Why would they take C students? I guess they never took white males c students
     
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    Did you see white males as inferior when they didn’t have to compete with more than 50% of the population? Were they defined as inferior? That’s how you see women and minorities, I see them as people who were denied equal rights for centuries. Get the medical schools which are now more than 50% female? Do you think they just got more intelligent?
     
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    You are projecting the past into the present. But that's what progressives do.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your juvenile attempt at logic is high comedy.
     
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    That’s what intellectuals do because If you ignore the past you repeat
    It in the future. Women’s reproductive freedom is an example, If you ignore the uprising of Nazi Germany then you won’t see what is happening here
    Just mocking your lack of logic....
     
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    That what identity politics is all about. Projecting problems from 100 years ago onto today justifies their perverted political platform.
     
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    What does this have to do with the price of fried possum balls marinaded in squirrel sauce in Mississippi?
    where did I mention us white folks as inferiors?

    You have an amazing skill, you should market it, as I dont remember me saying women and minorities are inferior, yes they were denied equal rights in the early years but that isn't the case today

    And your point is what?
     
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    You obviously, and predictably for a leftist, have done exactly zero independent research on the subject.

    I have invested a great deal of time to the subject to make sure I had good grasp of the the data and arguments.

    You on the other hand, simply believe what you're told by the media. That's just sad.
     
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    Excuse me! Have you even bothered to read any of the posters that oppose Affirmative Action?
     
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    Lols!
     
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    Or, in the case of you Fancy Intellectuals, keep repeating racial bias for eternity.
     
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    Wow... unbelievable.

    It is you and the left who are repeating history.

    You are empowering government. Just as the people of 1930's Germany did.

    It doesn't matter what rationale you use to support the unaccountable expansion of governmental power - in the end, you have let loose the beast upon the people.

    You Renee, are no different than the average citizen of 1930's Germany. Bigoted, motivated by hate and revenge... wake up!!!
     
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  21. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gotta admit
    Those White Males you speak of
    Made :flagus: Great !

    Moi :oldman:

    :


    No :flagcanada:
     
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    Let me guess...you’re a white male
     
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    imagine how much greater it would be if the majority of the population could have participated instead of held back!
     
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    and you are making “ certain groups “ the enemies. Soon they’ll be wearing arm bands
    I don’t understand when you talk about empowering government. Or is it only that you like government that appeals to you. I hope you’ll take your kids out of those government public schools. I hope you’ll get rid of those government cops and firefighters. I hope you will get rid of food inspectors and Medicare and Social Security. I always have to laugh when you right wingers call those who fight against bigotry the bigots. I guess you think the immigrants are rapists and the neo-Nazis are some fine people. We just have different values
     
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    Guess again. What is your second choice ??
     

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