"End looms for US Air Force's 'Warthog' ground-attack jet" This is Ridiculous!

I had heard that the MC-12 was going to be transferred to the Army a few years ago. Since the Army already had the infrastructure for training and maintenance of C-12 /King Air planes, but I have not heard anything lately so I don't know what happened to it.

 

If they need it, they should use the MV22 for aerial refuelling... I read somewhere they were going to test a system for it.

 

The Navy and USAF are concentrating on developing new STEALTH REFULING AIRCRAFT for Drones.

After all....what the hell good is a Stealth Drone is some big fat KC-135 is refuling it?

AboveAlpha

 

You are partially incorrect about parts for the A-10. Elbit Systems bought the jigs and manufacturing plans from M7 Aerospace who had obtained them from Dornier who had originally purchased Fairchild. Elbit Systems is a contractor Israel Defense systems.

 

we need to get rid of all the military, except the natl' guard and the nuke missile subs. That's all we need to DEFEND the US. We need to get out and stay out of other countries' biz.and quit WASTING a trillion $ a year on a military that's not being used to stop ANOTHER trillion $ loss (the illegals). we also need to stop YET ANOTHER trillion $ waste, the war on drugs. Presto, 3 trillion $ per year that can be used to rebuild our infrastructure and give the kids hand to hand and firearms training.

 

The A10 is an expensive and worthless program. What use is the A10?

Everything it can do can be done more effectively by a drone on demand program.

 

Name the only country on Earth to have invaded the US?

Great Britain which doesn't even exist anymore and it's constituent parts are the US most natural allies.

You know what is a horrible idea?

Letting people with no understanding of historical perspective create uninformed propaganda based policies.

 

England....Revolutionary War, Canadian English....War of 1812....Spain/Mexico....Alllamo....Sam Huston...etc...and YES....I KNOW Texas was not a state at the time....Japanese.....Aleutian Islands...WWII.

A few other minor instances as well.

But the U.S. Navy is so vast....so powerful....and we don't ever even discuss Subs....as well the USAF could use Heavy Long Range Bombers to wipeout any possible Invasion Force whether they would come via land...Alaska....or sea.....that the United States and all Territories of the U.S. asif you live in a U.S. Territory like Guam or Puerto Rico or a thousand other islands....you are an American Citizen as well....you really have nothing to worry about.

AboveAlpha

 

Spain at the Alamo? At the time Texas was part of Mexico...maybe you need to refresh on history.

The US encouraged Japan to attack territories and only military bases (pearl harbor, guam, wake, Philippines) because the US cut off a vital strategic resource to Japan's war effort in China.

Watch Iran block the straights of hormuz and see if the US just bombs Iran's military bases in...Syria and Iraq?

Why didn't Japan just bomb pearl harbor then go on to destroy San Fransico?

Why did they wait 6 months to get their Butts kicked in Midway?

Why did Japan fight a defensive war?

Could it be because Japan wanted to be reasonable and just wanted their oil supply re-established?

YOUR VIEW OF HISTORY IS AN INSULT TO REALITY.

 

I stated the Texas/Mexico issue I am aware.

But England and English Canadians did infact invade the U.S.

The Japanese Invaded the Alaskan Aleutian Islands...a Territory of the U.S. but as I stated if a person lives or is born in a U.S. Territory THEY ARE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

Japan backed off after Pearl because that was their plan if they did not sink the U.S. Carriers which just before Japan bombed Pearl Harbor....the U.S. Naval Leadership ordered the U.S. Carriers to head out to sea.

If Japan had destroyed those Carriers it would have been a much longer war but the end was NEVER in doubt.

AboveAlpha

 

Oh....and Iran's Naval Leadership has had secret communication with the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet and expressed their intent to STAND DOWN if ever ordered to attempt to block the Strait of Hormuz.

As the Iranaian Naval Leadership knows THEY would be the first to do the dying....against an impossible to defeat U.S. Integrated Services Overall Force.....the Iranian Navy would simply stand down rather than die.

AboveAlpha

 

But with regards to the alleutians.

1) it was the airbase they attacked...not some fishing village.

2) it was in context of a defensive strike aimed at changing US belligerent policies against their strategic interests.

Again what if Russia used its Navy to impose a US only Embargo on oil/gas.

US would do a lot more than bomb the North fleet in Kaliningrad.

It's pure utter hypocrisy and it's disgusting.

Also no. Japan NEVER had an invasion plan even if the US carriers were destroyed.

There is not one shred of evidence that without US carriers...Japan would have sailed over to San Fran and Long Beach and destroyed US industry.

 

First of all I NEVER stated that the Japanese had an Invasion Plan where Japanese Troops would attempt to Invade the Lower 48...as that would be SUICIDE for Japan.

Secondly you said their was only one Nation that ever Invaded the U.S....I have roved there were several.

As far as this statement by you and I quote..."Again what if Russia used its Navy to impose a US only Embargo on oil/gas."...end quote IDNeon....you will have to explain and detail this as far as what year whether now or back in WWII or other.

Japanese Army was enslaving and murdering MILLIONS OF PEOPLE in Asia and in the Pacific....Japan got what it deserved and Japan is lucky it was the U.S. that defeated them not Russia.

AboveAlpha

 

This is a dumb reply and I'm too tired to give it a full response.

Wars used to be fought "nicely" this whole idea that wars are total and aren't fair is why WW2 killed 50 million people instead of 10 million or 2 million.

Why couldn't we have made peace with Hitler and Japan and accepted THAT world order?

Why did we have to kill 50 million in TOTALERKRIEGEN to get OUR way?

Oh wait they didn't even teach that to you in history class do they?

Sure they teach you about German Blitzkrieg.

What they don't teach you us Germany was playing fair.

They only were producing half the military production, they only mobilized half their population or less for war.

That was Blitzkrieg.

How convenient they forget to teach that FDR and Churchill's total war policy led to this....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...35,_Berlin,_Großkundgebung_im_Sportpalast.jpg

Do you know what that even is? Of course not.

It is Germany's response to US policy.

Total war was their realization that the US refused to play by old world diplomacy and accept military solutions in traditional manners.

Well guess what after 50 million people died because of US Total war Policies, the US rregime is a failure.

Germany and Japan still exist.

The European Union was the NAZI vision for Europe and Germany rules the EU so under your very noses Hitler got what he wanted.

Russia and China are so to destroy the US world regime.

And the US goes around killing millions in wars on terror.

What are you going to do when the world says no to America? Nuke them in total war?

You basically have sucked the propaganda pipe your whole life. Your entire reality is recreated by propaganda.

 

Your an angry little spud aren't you?

AboveAlpha

 

ok, wise guy, HOW will anyone land troops from ships, when we are sinking them with our nuke subs, hmm? what country will DARE take even half a dozen nuke hits? see, you are a wuss who would not use nukes, no matter WHAT the enemy is doing. I, on the other hand, would have nuked Teheran, in 1979, and we would not have ANY of the Arab crap that we see today.

the only reason that Germany and Japan still exist (as nation states) is WE REBUILT them (a waste of a trillion or more $, obviously). We should have nuked a few Russian cites, before the Russians got nukes, and imposed a "pax americana' on the world, for centuries.

 

I have to say that although this is not surprising, it's very disappointing.

Air Force probing alleged 'treason' remark by general

WASHINGTON
The Air Force is investigating allegations that the No. 2 commander at its prestigious Air Combat Command told lower-ranking officers that talking to members of Congress about the capabilities of the A-10 attack aircraft is tantamount to treason.

The alleged comment by Maj. Gen. James Post has stirred concern in Congress about the Air Force muzzling officers in violation of their legal rights.

"This is very serious, to accuse people of treason for communicating with Congress," Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-New Hampshire, told Gen. Mark Welsh, the Air Force chief of staff, who testified Wednesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Post is reported to have told Air Force officers attending a recent weapons and tactics conference in Nevada that it is their duty to support the service's budget priorities by refraining from offering opinions inconsistent with those priorities. Air Force leaders have proposed retiring the A-10 fleet but Congress has refused, and some inside the Air Force have sided with Congress.



I'm getting close to thinking that we might need to get rid of the Air Force and return it's functions to the Army or Navy.

 

Outside of the defunct SAC, there was never a real reason to have separated them, just political logrolling. It would also simplify SAC's replacement org somewhat as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Strategic_Command

Their website:

http://www.stratcom.mil/

The Posture statement would be worth a read for those not familiar with what replaced SAC.

I'm not up on the Unfied Command Plan, but on the surface it seems to be doing exactly that, returning full circle back to the command structures of the WW II era and before.

 

I wonder how much they're paying these guys:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a7485/weather-studying-warthog-a-fixed-up-a-10-will-fly-into-thunderstorms/