Endangered species

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  1. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    60% of species are under threat...
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    Primates facing 'extinction crisis'
    Wed, 18 Jan 2017 - Primates are facing an extinction crisis, according to researchers who have found that 60% of species are under threat.
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Granny once whupped a grizzle bear dat tried to get into her 'special' brownies...
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    Yellowstone Grizzly Bears to Lose Endangered Species Protection
    June 22, 2017 — Grizzly bears in and around Yellowstone National Park will be stripped of Endangered Species Act safeguards this summer, U.S. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke announced on Thursday in a move conservation groups vowed to challenge in court.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Extinction is part of evolution isn't it? Species get more viable when more tuned to their environment. This happens (we are told) through the evolutionary system of life and death and the passing on of genetics. When we 'save' a declining species we may be precluding natural selection.
     
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    Evidence for the above contention.
     
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    Seems reasonable to start hunting the grizzlies again then, especially outside of Yellowstone.

    Not hunting them, and letting them wreak havoc on livestock and humans will only lead to poaching anyway.
     
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    Aww, poor koala bear...
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    Dead koala found with ears cut off in Australia
    Sat, Nov 11, 2017 - A koala has been found dead in Australia with both its ears cut off, the latest in a spate of animal mutilations that police yesterday called “troublesome and disgusting.”
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    Mass extinction events created by human activity? Yep, let's call it evolution for the crack
     
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    Yes, but not nearly as much as when we save terminally ill children and feed the starving in Africa, so the effect is minimal, especially when you consider how many species humans have wiped out.

    Are you suggesting individual species aren't worth saving or are you suggesting that the entire ecosystem of an endangered species is necessary for its survival?
     
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    Just for the hell of it, I'd like to offer arguments for and against saving species.

    For: Individual species of plants and animals are unique in the history of the planet, never to be duplicated. Once they're gone, they're gone. (Cloning might bring some back temporarily, but we don't have enough DNA samples to recreate a stable population.) As the primary preservers AND destroyers of species, it's up to us whether the most vulnerable species survive. Generally speaking, all it costs is money and will. Humans are responsible for the destruction of thousands of species already. Let's stop adding to the total and save the rest for our kids and grandkids.

    Against: 99.9% of all species that have ever existed are already extinct. A few more hundreds or thousands won't really make any difference. As for life itself, the idea that humans could extinguish that is extreme hubris. We can't even kill off the ants around the house. If we wiped out every species except rats & roaches, they would evolve to fill every possible ecological niche. Life is far more stubborn than we tend to give it credit for.

    So which one am I? For.
     
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    Suggesting nothing.
    Try read what I uploaded.

    Declarative is not suggesting.
     
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    Crows are very, very smart. They'll eat a watermelon through a hole they make in the top side, then turn the melon over so the farmer don't know.
     
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    Lynx no longer need special protections...
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    Lynx no longer need protections
    Sat, Jan 13, 2018 - Wildlife officials in the US on Thursday declared Canada lynx recovered and said the snow-loving wild cats no longer need special protections following steps to preserve their habitat.
     
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    Most sea turtles are being born female due to stress of climate change...
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    Climate Change Affecting Gender of Endangered Green Sea Turtles
    January 13, 2018 — Researchers say climate change is responsible for the vast majority of green sea turtles in the northern Great Barrier Reef off Australia being female.
     

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