Energy Saving Light Bulbs Are Poisonous To the Brain, Nervous System, Liver, Kidneys

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    As I said, that is where the filament gets effective but it takes many many many cycles and there is no warning as to not using incandescent for short term light as enter a room to put something up or in a closet for instance while there were cautions and recommendations not to use CFL's in such applications.

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    The EPA is right wing now?

    Quick Instructions
    Broken CFL
    Download and print instructions
    Before Cleanup
    Have people and pets leave the room.
    Air out the room for 5-10 minutes by opening a window or door to the outdoor environment.
    Shut off the central forced air heating/air-conditioning system, if you have one.
    Collect materials needed to clean up broken bulb:
    stiff paper or cardboard;
    sticky tape;
    damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes (for hard surfaces); and
    a glass jar with a metal lid or a sealable plastic bag.
    During Cleanup
    DO NOT VACUUM. Vacuuming is not recommended unless broken glass remains after all other cleanup steps have been taken. Vacuuming could spread mercury-containing powder or mercury vapor.
    Be thorough in collecting broken glass and visible powder. Scoop up glass fragments and powder using stiff paper or cardboard. Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder. Place the used tape in the glass jar or plastic bag. See the detailed cleanup instructions for more information, and for differences in cleaning up hard surfaces versus carpeting or rugs.
    Place cleanup materials in a sealable container.
    After Cleanup
    Promptly place all bulb debris and cleanup materials, including vacuum cleaner bags, outdoors in a trash container or protected area until materials can be disposed of. Avoid leaving any bulb fragments or cleanup materials indoors.
    Next, check with your local government about disposal requirements in your area, because some localities require fluorescent bulbs (broken or unbroken) be taken to a local recycling center. If there is no such requirement in your area, you can dispose of the materials with your household trash.
    If practical, continue to air out the room where the bulb was broken and leave the heating/air conditioning system shut off for several hours.
    If you have further questions, please call your local poison control center at 1-800-222-1222.
    http://www2.epa.gov/cfl/cleaning-broken-cfl#instructions
     
  2. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The CFL like all fluorescent lamps are environmentally unfriendly.

    I've accidentally have dropped more than a few CFL's and I have noticed they were excellent at eliminating a rodent problem around a home. :smile:

    Thermostats that you use for your heaters and AC in the home use to all have mercury in them. In 2006 they became illegal to sell or install in California.
    Mercury is some bad (*)(*)(*)(*). http://www.newmoa.org/prevention/mercury/imerc/factsheets/thermostats.cfm
     
  3. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:
     
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    I think rodents are a much bigger problem for you then the fack that for some reason you break a lot of light bulbs.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Technically a LCF isn't a "light bulb."

    The PC LCF's are extremely fragile and contains the politically incorrect mercury.

    The politically incorrect incandescent "light bulb" are like a Timex watch, they can take a beating and keep on ticking, in this case keep on illuminating. And they don't contain mercury so Mother Nature likes incandescent "light bulbs."
     
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    Now you are an environmentalist? Hilarious when cons come out to denounce a green initiative in one thread and then go on to deny climate change in another. Your hypocrisy is noted.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Cons" ???

    As in a confidence man or as a convict ?

    Where the climate change bigots went wrong, they politicized climate change and became so obsessed that most weren't that concerned or weren't going to blame man for climate change they became climate change bigots.

    If the whole freaking world were to relamp too LED lighting, would the sun start acting differently ? Would the climate change bigots be happy as clams ?
     
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    Cons = conservatives aka people living in the 19th century.

    Republicans were quick to politicize science because it came from a conservative's worst nightmare, a smart liberal.
     
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    Huh? Incandescents are pretty delicate, in my observation, especially in the smaller sizes. Incandescent flashlight bulbs break routinely in outdoor usage (i.e. when camping). LEDs are much less fragile. They can take the shakes and drops.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hey Perdidochas, have you come across a really good LED flashlight ?

    Every LED flashlight I have purchased fails usually at the worst time. Sometimes it's a diode or the chip but mostly it's the on and off switch that fails. Even bought a MagLite LED and some times the switch fails.
     
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    I've been slowly flipping out my lights with LEDs from Home Depot, just getting whatever is cheap and 60 watt (I think 60). No issues yet. They're still a bit new, but I'm sure they'll just get better and more reliable.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I haven't had any problems with them, except the cheapo harbor freight LED that my son left in his shorts pocket and washed. Much less problems than the old incandescents, which ran through batteries and broke bulbs. I'm not impressed by Maglites. I have a mini-mag lite that was just horrible with the original bulbs. It works much better with the LED replacement head.
     
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    LOL, originally I put all CFL's in my house except in the odd places like the refrigerator, oven, etc. CFL's don't last anywhere near their advertised life. In rooms with frequent on/off cycles of the light(bathrooms, bedrooms, foyer) they don't last a year. Outside they don't last a year. I've replaced every single CFL except the dining room ones (rarely used) multiple times. Not to mention the mercury in all those CFL's that end up in the garbage. CFL's are another "green" scam.

    Two years ago as CFL's burnt out we replaced them with LED's. Huge improvement in light color and quality. Only one LED has gone out.

    I'll bet some politicians, members of the Sierra Club, and other greenies bought stock in CFL companies, then forced this green energy scam on the nation so they could rake in billions. Just like the AGW loons are trying to do.
     
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    I've been using CFL since I built my current house, 11 years ago and I haven't replace a bulb yet.
    I would go with LED except the color of the light they produce is a bit too blue and it impact my luminotherapy.
    I know that they produce some 6500k LED now but those cost a lot more than the regular bulb.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Well, I had different results with the CFLs. I replaced my old incandescents as they died starting about 5 or 6 years ago. Haven't replaced all in the house, some are lasting forever. That said, I am just at the point now that the CFLs are dying (except for one, which was in a place that I had to replace the incandescents every 9 months, I never replaced the CFL with another, just recently replaced it with an LED).

    You can recycle CFLs and the long tube fluorescents at almost all big box hardware stores--I recycle them at Lowes. If mercury was a worry for you, you would as well.

    That said, I think that the law to ban certain incandescents actually slowed the changeover to more efficient bulbs. The market was doing a pretty good job of it before that law.
     

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