Equality: The Ultimate Arrogance Of Man

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    LOL, you are way off base.
    Projections that are completely fabricated are worthless.
    Try staying on topic.
     
  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Prior to the civil rights movement, laws didn't exist for men to be all equal before the law.
    And after the laws changed, it still takes a few generations for societal mindset to change.
     
  3. Thingamabob

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    In order to qualify for unemployment benefits you must actively seek employment and have documents to prove it. Why would you not be entitled to the same amount of paid vacation time as the employed are under the terms of EQUALITY?
     
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    No, it is not. Look to the Scandinavia nations.
     
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    What 'societal mindset'? What does it look like? Give examples.
     
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    Which are all capitalist democracies. If they weren't capitalist, they would not have anything like the standard of living they enjoy.
     
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    Because you're not working. If you're on permanent vacation, you don't need a vacation.

    Please remember that equality is just the legal starting place. If you move into unemployment from there, that's your own personal stuff to sort out. Nothing to do with equality.
     
  8. Thingamabob

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    We are talking about equality. I have given you examples of equality unfulfilled but you condemn your fellow man without knowing or discussing any of the details. Try adhering to the topic.
     
  9. dairyair

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    Interracial marriage.

    ...
    Centuries before the same-sex marriage movement, the U.S. government, its constituent states, and their colonial predecessors tackled the controversial issue of "miscegenation," or mixture of races. It's widely known that the Deep South banned interracial marriages until 1967, but less widely known is that many other states did the same. California, for example, prohibited these marriages until 1948. In addition, politicians made three brazen attempts to ban interracial marriages nationally by amending the U.S. Constitution
    https://www.thoughtco.com/interracial-marriage-laws-721611
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    Today, very very few even care if married couples are interracial.
    But the thought of it being legal or accepted did not change over night.
    Adults against is die off. Kids growing up with it normal never give it a 2nd thought.
     
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    No, I mean what does it look like TODAY. Give me current examples.
     
  11. dairyair

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    Gay marriage is on a similar track.
    Gay acceptance is further along.
    30 yrs ago, gays were still beaten and/or killed. Some still today, but today's youth don't care if one is gay or straight.
     
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    DA, I'll ask once more and hope for the best.

    Examples from TODAY please. Not ten years ago, or even five years ago.
     
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    Hope all you want.
    I said some changes are generational, I can't predict the future.
    Perhaps Trans will become a non issue 30 yrs from now.
     
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    I lied .. one more try.

    Give examples happening from TODAY. Not the future, and not the past.
     
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    What a COMPLETELY silly person! Scandinavia is a SOCIALIST Democracy, not a Capitalist Democracy.

    You are using words that you do not understand, you are then combining them incorrectly and attributing them to political philosophies that you understand even less. Furthermore, you can skin it any way you like but it still has no bearing on EQUALITY.

    In a manner that you might understand you are comparing apples to pears without the benefit of knowing what either apples or pears are.
     
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    I know of no Scandinavian country that supplies all those things.
     
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    The majority of the means of production and distribution in Scandinavia is privately owned which makes it capitalistic.
     
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    You must be joking!
    Look, if you want to continue this dialogue then you'll have to be serious or at least learn something about the subject on your own. I'm not going to parry every one of your misinterpretations. If you simply do not know anything about it and going on what you assume to be "everybody knows" rumours then you don't deserve my hard response but if you think you can debate the issue against my knowledge then this is going nowhere. Shall we depart as friends or discuss it as friends?
     
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    Who are you actually talking to? You quoted myself and someone else. Might want to arrange your posts a little better.

    Meantime there is no socialism in Scandinavian countries. NONE.

    They are entirely capitalist, and manifest none of the fundamentals of socialism (work to eat, shared housing etc).

    They have a high standard of living because capitalism provides plenty of profit to pay for it all.
     
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    Give us a single example of Scandinavian socialism. And please remember that welfare and public roads are the boons of capitalism - nothing to do with socialism. And a 'worker owned' business is also not socialism .. it's just the same old capitalist enterprise using different words and slightly different structure - something that anyone in America can do, any time they like. So yeah, give just one example.
     
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    It seems you don't know what socialism is and what it isn't. Who do you think owns the largest company in Sweden, Volvo, the government or the Geely Holding Group? How about the other giant companies in Sweden like Ericsson, Skanska, Hennes and Mauritz, and Telia? How much of those do you believe the government owns?
     
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    I most certainly do know what socialism is. Clearly, you do not know what it is nor do you even know what it is that I said.

    I'm sure that I've wasted enough time on you but I thought that anyone whose only source of information is Dick & Jane just needs a guiding hand and the ball would start rolling in the direction of true knowledge. I was wrong. You are content with your system of absurd nonsense but I'm sure you are very popular with the kids in the parking lot during fire drills so just enjoy it and don't worry about the world.
     
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    Can't have a Utopia in a monetary/capitalist system. A monetary/capitalist system is a parasitic, anti-democratic, anti-social, anti-life system. A Utopia would be devoid of such parasitic elements.

    If you want a Utopia, you have to step outside the current paradigm.
     
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    Or, as the scolars say, "Klaatu barada nikto".
     
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    Best movie ever! :mrgreen:
     
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