Erdogan: "Macron Needs Mental Health Treatment"

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OMG.

    The cartoons were created for a far right Danish Newspaper when Denmark was going through a serious anti Muslim period. Their intention was to insult and bait Muslims. I am not sure whether it was before or after this but they were offered a similar one about Christianity. Want to see Jesus ****ing a donkey? They refused the similar Christian Cartoons because they expected them to cause uproar. What hypocracy all the people who try to say they are just cartoons. They are in reality an attack on Muslims. Macron cares not one bit for free speech. He puts people in jail for advocating BDS regardless of the reality that the EU court told him to let them out, allow French people Free Speech and give all the people who had been found guilty of the crime of supporting BDS, I think all were Palestinian, monetary compensation. Macron said no and he was going to arranage for his courts not to obey the EU Court. The man got elected to 'save' France from Marie Le Pen. Now he is trying to steal her customers.
     
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  2. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem with Islam is that conversion to another faith is a capital offense. I read that an Egyptian Imam said on TV, that if conversion wasn't a capital offense, Islam wouldn't exist. The funny thing is that he said it with pride, and didn't see anything wrong with it.

    In the Middle East today, even with the genocide of Christians, Christianity is growing - but of course it's underground. This is true in Israel as well where converts draw the ire of the Orthodox Jews, as well as in Turkey. I know that many Turks have been going to Greece to be baptized, and during the commemoration of Saint George in Turkey, 200 thousand Turks attended his shrine.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I find it strange that in the secular EU, that they would consider the feelings of Christians, when they're not even considered here. I have seen some atrocious paintings about Christian subjects that are looked upon as 'art'. It just shows what an ugly society we have become.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Turkey will not disappear after Erdogan.
    It will return to being a modern secular state
     
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    Try this - ask Muslims 'Do you agree with the beheading of homosexuals?' and you will find
    that many heartily agree. There's no sense of shame, no need to justify. This is an example
    of what I call a "strong culture." There's no doubt, no angst, no ground for accommodation with
    alternate ideas. This is where Western society is in danger - cultural doubt (even when it comes
    to having children.)
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's hope.
    But there's a problem. The liberal Turks don't have as many children as the more
    conservative, rural Turks do. It's the same problem with Jews in Israel.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually Islam is the weakest culture in the world because the Quran locked them into the medieval world of Mohamed and his peers by assuring them of the superiority of their own standards. There was no chance for growth, as there was with every other conquering tribe since the beginning of time.

    When Islam entered the brilliant Greek/Byzantine world of Alexandria, there was some growth for a time from the teachers that converted, but that didn't last long. It couldn't because any thoughts and knowledge above and beyond that of the Quran was stifled..
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Turkey was never a modern secular state, although there were modern secular people that went to schools outside of Turkey in Istanbul and Western Turkey. The genocides committed by Attaturk were exceeded only by the tens of millions of Christians killed by the Bolsheviks and the millions of Jews and Slavs killed by the Nazis.

    Anyway since the attempted coup, Erdogan distrusts the West, so Putin is able to control him somewhat. He knows the pressure Erdogan is under by his more aggressive nationalist opposition. Should something happen to Erdogan, the new leader will not be under Russia's restrain, so that Turkey's actions in the Caucasus, Syria, Libya, Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean will be even more aggressive.

    WWIII is on the horizon.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Mmmmm.. no.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well here's a little of what I know from the Greek Saints, and they have always been accurate. When Erdogan falls the new leader will attack the Greek islands and Cyprus. That will probably be about the same time that Israel attacks Iran but I'm not sure. The Turkish PM will close the Bosporus straits to Russian ships, and Moscow will give Ankara an ultimatum to leave the Aegean - which Turkey won't. Their fleet will disappear over night and Istanbul will become a blood bath.

    We won't be in the war because of geological problems, but Britain, France, Italy and some other nations will enter the war to see what they can grab. None of those who go there will return home. When it ends, there
    will be a return to the Treaty of Sevres and much of Turkey will become Kurdistan. In order to solve the problem of who will control the straits and Constantinople, it will be given to Greece, but only the European part. The city will be rebuilt together with the Turks - many of whom will become Christians openly.

    The major war will start 6 months after this first war and every nation that enters that war, will be destroyed. Not all nations will enter it though.
    These things will probably start next year - that is if the Greek Saints are right, which I believe they are.
     
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    For sure. Agree. I should have worded that better. By 'strong' I mean that Islam believes in itself.
    Attempts to control Islam in France will just make Islam stronger there. There is no doubts about
    Islam among Muslim.
    There was a commentary on Australian TV years ago. A Christian pastor was trying to reach out
    to a Rabbi and a Muslim cleric. He was prepared to acknowledge the mistakes of Christianity and
    spoke of interfaith dialogue etc..
    The Muslim and Jew would have none of it - they defended their faiths to the hilt.
     
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    There are a lot of problems going on between France and Turkey in the Mediterranean. Macron wants the EU to sanction Turkey over Erdogan's illegal and aggressive actions towards the Greek islands and Cyprus, but Germany, Italy and Spain are hesitating since they have invested heavily in Turkey.

    This has infuriated Erdogan towards France, so he's trying to arouse the Muslims in France in whatever way he can. Whatever he says is towards that end. There was a time a few years back, when Erdogan and his side kick Devotoglu would visit countries with Turkish populations and try to get them to start questioning their borders. They were causing so much trouble, that Merkel refused to allow him to speak to the Turks in Germany in his last visit.
     
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    I'm sorry, if Macron actually thinks that, maybe he does need a mental tune up...
     
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    In Russia, Putin, Kadyrov and the Imam of Moscow decided to have an enlightened version of Islam taught to the Muslims in school so they wouldn't be susceptible to extremist views. This might be what Macron is trying to do. It might work, but what about their economic situation in France?

    Putin spent billions in building up Chechnya, to the chagrin of the Russians at the time, since so many Russians died in Chechnya during the wars. Later on though the Chechnyans proved their loyalty to 'Mother Russia' - many times with their lives.

    The Chechnyans were the ones that fought when Russians troops were not able to do so officially - like for instance in Eastern Ukraine. Also Kadyrov's men police the Caucasus from terrorists and have fought quite a few battles there.

    Also because Kadyrov's men are Sunnis, they are trusted by the locals and used as guards in the deconfliction zones in Syria, and along the Israeli Syrian border.
     
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    Then how come the vast majority of them do? I take it you've never actually met a Muslim. Ever.
     

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