Erdogan threatens Europe with 3.6 million new refuges if they continue to criticize " Peace Spring"

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  1. gnoib

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    They go straight to the UK and we sell the boats to them, win, win situation.
     
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    Please do it, have the guts, which I doubt the UK has.
     
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    Are you talking about the US ?
     
  4. The Rhetoric of Life

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    You wished it worked like that.

    UK paid France like EU pays Turkey; France doesn't have to uphold its end of the bargain anymore than Turkey has to uphold it's end of theirs with the EU.
    Turkey opens its flood gates, EU sues Turkey; France decides not to deal with them in France, UK sues France.
    The EU forgets itself; instead of having the right to stop bilateral deals with the UK and EU countries, the EU lacks the right to force the UK to do anything it doesn't want to do what with self determination and Brexit. EU needs to let go of the UK since it said no cherry picking, UK's out and EU will have to carry on without us.

    What would be the point of leaving the EU if UK's still expected to contribute? EU needs to pay for its own business itself, even if that means paying Erdogan 6 more years to take care of its displaced Syrian refugees in Turkey; That's EU's wish, EU's problem and EU's matter, not UK's.
     
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    UK's paid France, it's a matter for UK and France, EU has it's own pact with Turkey.
    Why should UK help out the EU in a no deal clean break Brexit; Why should UK worry if Turkey floods Europe or not? What you seem to misunderstand is that asylum seekers aren't terrorists and that it's up to EU if they want to house them or pay Turkey to house them; If EU asked UK to house them, UK would probably say no.
     
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    It's insulting that backward Europeans view refugees as terrorists because they're Muslim.


    Get over yourself EU & Turkey; you think it's acceptable to view them as a weapon because you're a backwards third world.
     
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    I must admit, it's fun telling the EU that UK doesn't have the same problem as the EU anymore and that Brexit is like the British Monroe Doctrine separating UK from EU.
    A real sense of liberation and indeed satisfaction leaving the EU to sort out it's own mess without us.
    UK gets to get out the popcorn while EU deals with Turkey and UK gets self determination allowing the UK to work on what UK wants to, not EU.
     
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    This event would have to be multiplied by 21 to have your scales. So yawn.
     
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    I feel pity how small you are. You even want support terror attacks. How deep you plan to sink?
     
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    Since you have a delusion an asylum seeker from Syria's an automatic terrorist, I just pity you.
     
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    You're no better than Erdogan @Sobo @gnoib you threaten to weaponise floods of asylum seekers against the UK in your posts like Erdogan threatened the EU after the EU 28 paid him.
     
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    No no no you dont get out of this that easily. You said you would not help to fight ISIS and even keep back informations about planned terror attacks.
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    No less than President Trump is on the ISIS side now and is helping the Turkish Army to free 14,000 ISIS terrorists to escape into Europe. Why should Rhetoric fight ISIS? Why should anybody?
     
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    And what had Europe done?

    Why is the US the only one to deal with Turkey?
     
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    The UK was in the EU for it's economics. But it was never fully part of the EU. They didn't use the Euro. They also were never part of the Shengen agreement = erasing border checks. The whole immigration to the UK,.. has always been the UK's problem. A Brexit does nothing for or against it. So there is no popcorn time over that.
     
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    Because it's the US fault. They started attacking Iraq, and that cascaded into the creation of ISIS and the spread to Syria, and so the mess there with the Kurds. The US pulling back their army -as far as I know- was an uncoordinated action, and Turkey jumped in that power vacuum. It could have been filled up differently and so with less of a mess. And lets face it... the US is creating one mess after the other. The fallout of millions of refugees fleeing a genocidal war is something the US refuses to help out with. The US really needs to own up on the mess they created by cleaning it up as well. You ask, what had Europe done? ... thing is, Europe aint there to clean up the crap the US creates.
     
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    Not any more. UK is leaving on the 31st.
    Find another idiot to take them in
     
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    Europe started this mess long before the Ottoman collapse.
     
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    which 31. and which year ?
     
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    The US is the only one who had troops there. I doubt very much if Turkey would lot other European troops in even if they offered to guard the ISIS prisoners. No nation would do that, it's a violation of their sovereignty.

    This is BS to even talk about. Trump is doing this because Putin told him he would release the PP tapes if he didn't and Erdogan told him he wouldn't let him build a Hotel in Istanbul, so naturally our country got sold out. But Trumpers should fear not, Putin is having Spetsnaz train all those ISIS fighters to pull something like the school hostage thing the Chechen Jihadists did in 2002, that way Trump can declare martial law, postpone the elections, have all the Democrats in the House shot and crucify Nancy Pelosi on an all network special. (I'm very liberal, but I'd still watch) :p
     
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    Everything now is directly related to the US invading Iraq and the US aiding the Kurds, and running away from their mess.
     
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    why the hell is Turkey part of the EU and NATO???

    they are the enemy of modern society.
     
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    How ignorant can you be?
     
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    George Noory is on from midnight till 4.00.
     
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    The Kurdish homelands are not in Syria, they are in Turkey, Iran and Iraq. Only a small section of Syria that connects with Turkey, belonged to the Kurds. Assad always had an open policy, so whenever some group like the Armenians, Assyrians, Iraqis or Kurds were under attack or persecuted, they ran to Syria. Most of the Kurds who are in Syria today, are those that ran out of Turkey - and this is why they are a threat to Turkey. Erdogan fears that if there is a Kurdish homeland bordering on Turkey, it will arouse their 20 million Kurds.

    The land in Syria the Kurds want for their country was never their land. It has the best soil, as well as the oil and gas and it's needed so Assad can rebuild his country. It also has Arabs living there, and they don't want the Kurds, they don't want to leave their lands, and they don't want to be a part of Kurdistan. They want to remain part of Syria.

    The British always Balkanized nations to maintain control - that's why they drew the lines in the sand and made some Arab nations wealthy, and others poor.

    After WWI, the allies were working on the Treaty of Sevres. Anatolia which today is the Turkish Republic, was to be given back to their original inhabitants. The Armenians were to get back their lands and so would the Greeks. The Kurdish part was to be administered by the British, and the Assyrian part by the French.

    What happened though, was that there was so much infighting among the allies on who would get what part of Anatolia, that it gave Attaturk the chance to reorganize his army and ethnically cleanse the Christian populations. He was then able to claim all of Anatolia for his Turkish Republic.
     

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