Eric Reid says he doesn't plan to protest national anthem

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  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22873957/eric-reid-says-plan-protest-anthem

    Interesting. One of the most involved protesters has decided he will stand for the anthem. This is Kaepernick's right hand man in the protests, as well as one of the most vocal protesters. Free agency was the protesters' scariest time after Kaepernick never received an offer. Do you think more will follow Reid? What say you?
     
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  2. Steve N

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    Gotta love how ESPN framed that statement. Reading it, a person would think the worst of the police and that minorities were always the victims. If it's proven that minorities were the victims of police brutality, those minorities have the opportunity to walk away with millions of dollars when they sue the police. When cops are shot by those same people, what do they get from the people who shot them?
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a flawed logic, I know.

    Rest assured, the NFL is going to do what the NBA does. Add in the contracts:
    Don't stand for the national anthem, that's fine, just don't get paid that game.
     
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    Walk away with millions of dollars after their rights as adjudicated under the constitution have been brutalized by the state.

    In some cases they are killed.

    What good does those "millions" of dollars do then?

    And Army, you know this little anthem thing was a dead end until POTUS opened his ****ing trap. It was all but gone until the Donald got involved.

    No punitive action is needed.... just leave it die it's natural death.
     
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    It was my understanding that Kaepernick and others were never protesting the national anthem, but instead were protesting police brutality during the national anthem. Kaepernick even talked with a Navy Seal who encouraged him to kneel, rather than sit, because during a military funeral, a soldier kneels to present the flag from the coffin to the family.

    I don't know that more will join the protest since it has been painted in the media differently than it was intended.
     
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    That's correct. I actually made another thread about what you just said a while ago. My apologies if you got the impression I believed they were protesting the anthem. I'm well aware they are protesting what they believe to be unjust behavior directed to a minority race from law enforcement.
     
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    the whole was over hyped. if the cameras werent focused on the ones kneeling, it would have died sooner.
     
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    No one denies there are injustices in this world and that's why we have cops to begin with. My point was both cops and civilians can be the victims of each other and only the civilians have a potential recourse to turn a bad situation into something beneficial. After those 5 cops were killed in Dallas did the police march around chanting 'what do we want, dead blacks?' In some ways the field it tilted towards the cops, in other ways it's tilted against them.

    BTW, by any chance are you posting your thoughts in that Somali cop thread?
     
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    I already did post my thoughts in the Somali cop thread. He was hired for diversity, and he was fast tracked. I posted about that extrajudicial killing when it happened.

    I've also said the same pretty much throughout my tenure on this forum; any cop who shoots any unarmed civilian, to me, is extrajudicially murdering someone in the named of the state, using excessive force absolutely not represented in an equal threat.

    IMHO a cop should not be allowed to shoot as easily as they do now.
     
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    I would rather have that in contracts, and not need it, versus leaving it out of contracts because people think the "protesters" are done, and then when another piece of disrespectful grandstanding trash like Kaepernick rears their ugly head there is nothing in the contract to punish/discourage them.

    This flag disrespecting pseudo "protesting" crap may have run it's course for now, but there's no guarantee it's over forever.

    Better to have it covered contractually in advance.
     
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    Correct, this thread is about players currently not being signed because of it.
     
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    The NFL paid BLM a few hundred million dollars so I think we're done with the kneeling thing for the most part.
     
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    Flag disrespecting? Go peel the thin blue line sticker off your car, Libby.

    People are free to protest whatever they want. Millions have died ensuring that.
     
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    Once these kneelers realize that their contracts aren't forever, and they become free agents...not a peep about 'injustice'. They know how powerful their mistakes are.
     
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    The NFL agreed to a deal to eventually pay. To my knowledge, they haven't. I could be wrong.
     
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    I know for a fact that the NFL was paid by the military for this ramping up of patriotic nationalism at games.

    I know nothing of BLM actually being paid by the NFL, however.
     
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    It's not BLM as he stated, it's some other organization. Thanks for catching that
     
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    Wow I missed this part. Sources so we can verify your claims.
     
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    It likely both and here's why.

    If one is dumb enough to believe in the whole "wahhh racist police brutality" thing then one is also the perfect candidate for the bigotry behind "wahhh the American flag is racist".

    We need only look to the incidents these assclowns used as justification for their "protest".

    They just followed the leftist narrative which was one that presented criminals and violent thugs as innocent angel future astronauts.

    Now mix in all the ignorance, the media hype and lies, and their innate racism and you can easily say that their intention was to respond this imagined fictitious slight with militancy.
     
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    They're paying or have paid the money to "charities aligned with the pursuit of social justice".

    BLM, being the common public moniker for ABC XYZ black identity radicalism organizations.

    So we can say "they're giving money to BLM" because its just easier than listing out all of the hate groups that few have ever heard of operating behind the moniker.
     
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    This has been debated to death. Free speech is one thing, it's something else altogether to have standards of conduct required by an employer.

    Let these losers protest on their own time and I'll stand next to you and defend their right to free speech. (Although I'll still think they are grandstanding fools.)

    One can hope.

    It still seems safer to just cover it proactively contractually.
     
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    You didn't know?

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...rts-teams-millions-for-paid-patriotism-events

    https://deadspin.com/these-teams-earned-the-most-from-the-militarys-paid-pa-1740567338


    And just so no one says "Liberal sources" - confirmation from the NFL

    https://www.military.com/daily-news...ary-ties-after-paid-patriotism-uncovered.html

     
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    Unsigned free agents might follow suit, if they think that they aren't getting offers b/c of their association with the "kneeling movement".
     
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    I'm not singling you out because I don't know where you stand, but it's not very often we hear liberals use the word 'patriotism.' However, there are millions of other people who proudly claim to be patriots and they were insulted by the player's actions. And protesting on company time will and should get a person fired.
     
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    Well that's one way to look at it. We always use sports to honor soldiers WELL before any of these protests occurred. Two different things...
     

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