EU and Poland

"Why does 2 countries control the EU."

 

It's funny because in France, people says it's germany who control the EU .

 

I guess everyone every where says Germany control the EU. Which isn't what Europe is about at all.

 

It's not totally false. The globalists gather around the leadership of Germany but by the way, it's not Germany fault. It's natural for german to defend the interests of german, however, when some french, italian or spanish people start to defend the interests of the german, here is the problem.

 

Or when Poland defends the interests of Poland and face sanctions from a foreign power. - That's a problem too.

 

In a way, Poland want the benefit of the union without the drawbacks. It's rather hypocrite but it's still wise to keep away muslims from your country.

 

Call it a special status for Poland since they never got any reparations from WWII.

 

Poland's own history with it's neighbours is no less dark than Germany's.
Reparations cut both ways.

 

And what ? French, dutch, danes, spanish own nothing to polish people...

I have nothing against polish people even if I don't like the behaviour of their country, but I don't see why the other countries should pay for them.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reparations_for_World_War_II

 

Not exactly linear.

Why don't you try again with intro, body, and logical conclusion ??

 

Yeah, the USSR never claimed these places against their will in some post WWII pay off between UK, US & USSR.
Germany set back Poland at least 100 years and now today we have to deal with Berlin and Merkel and BMW.
It should be Poland, not Germany -

Poland was annexed by the USSR because of WWII.That's what makes Poland's case unique and should be given special status.

Also, Spain wasn't in WWII and had their own problems that allowed Nazis to escape to Latin America since Spanish problems created dictators in Latin America.

 

Let me put it another way.

Poland deciding to do what they want is Poland acting like a country.
The EU sanctioning Poland for nothing but self determination is an outrage that says countries in the EU can't act or think for themselves.

 

Nobody gets reparations for WW2 any more.

WW2 is over. Punishing people who were not in WW2 for things they did not do?
No.
Not up for it.

Reparations over WW2? Money for people who weren't alive in WW2 to be paid for by other people who weren't alive in WW2.
Nonsense.

No victims and no victimisers. Just a story that happened to someone else who was not me.

Don't expect me to take this dribble seriously.


His story, is not my story. It's not even his story, it's history. A story.
A story from the past which we hope to learn from.
Drape yourself in some historical flag or convenience. Paint yourself into a grievance that is not yours.
Paint someone else into the same story as the villain. Then demand money. Who is the villain now?

But it is a fantasy. A romance.
I didn't enslave anyone. Or invade anyone or rape any one. I dropped no bombs, colonised no countries and if you seek to paint me into that picture, there is no reason why I should take you seriously.

I'm British. History happened.
I can't ignore that. But it didn't happen to me. And the people in Germany today, not the people our fathers fought.

So this says more about the people calling for reparations than it does anything else. They are blaggers.
Taking the piss.

 

Tell that to Poland.

Alright.


Honestly, Poland joined the EU to better themselves, not to give back to Germany (as they see it) or Brussels/the EU.

-Take 'em for all they've got is a feeling that is Polish and remembers how good things were before WWII and what the USSR got on Poland's behalf, asking, why should it?
It's a country that blames Donald Tusk of the EU for killing it's last president.
You're not seeing this from their eyes in the party that's....


Well...

It's making itself have total control in Polish courts claiming corruption of the old way.

 

I CBA to tell it to Poland or any of the other bazillion twits who try to paint themselves into a story of historical injustice.

Israeli's. Black people in America. Countless poor ex-colonial countries. The IRA. The SNP.

It's all bollocks.
Angry about nothing much at all. Looking for an excuse to attack people and finding it in the pages of a story book.

I like the Poles, I get the Germans ****ed up with immigration and are trying to pawn their problems off on others who are in no way obligated to accept.
Good for the Poles to take no ****.

But reparations, that is Poles, giving ****, not taking it.

 

True, but...

Isn't the EU too just as bollocks?

 

At least Poland's standing up for self determination in the face of termination.

 

The EU is not my problem any more.

It does what it does until such time as we go to war. Which is hopefully never.
Poles don't need my support. There is nothing I can do even if I wanted to. Which I don't.

 

I'd like to see a £100m defence deal with Poland like the one Theresa May signed with Turkey this year on her way back from meeting Donald Trump.

 

As would I.

If they are buying, we are selling.

 

Poland is having problems with its democracy. In particular with its checks and balances - that is the Independence of the courts - one of the things which currently is helping the UK to keep its democracy.

https://euobserver.com/justice/138567

The EU is likely to respond to this with Article 7


https://euobserver.com/justice/138568

Whatever anyone thinks of the EU or Poland it has to be in the interests of the people of Poland that her Judiciary remains independent.

 

If Poland didn't have to change to suit Brussels, that would be a start.

The EU is forcing itself on Poland.
Poland isn't sanctioning the EU.
Poland is doing what it feels it needs to, so why must the EU insist Poland conforms like everybody painting everyone with the same brush?
Who's going to sanction the EU for this if they sanction a country for being a country?

 

Poland have made it quite clear that they (the ruling PiS) can't trust the courts because of EU corruption and the killing of the Polish President that none other than Donald Tusk of the EU Parliament is accused of.

It's like a slap in the face to these people to appoint Donald Tusk to anything in Europe. Poland voted against him, but he still won so it's not like the EU listen to Poland when Poland even get a vote.

 

Because it is part of the EU. Because the EU does not want a country that does not go by the rule of law. I deliberately did not give any quotes to see if you would look and see what it was about.

https://euobserver.com/justice/138568

As I said getting Poland to keep an independent Judiciary is first of all in the interests of the Polish people. You want Poland to have a totalitarian regime? You think that would be good for the Polish People or do you? Tell me what you think is so good about Totalitarian regimes and why you would like to live under one.