EU has trade deals with 55 non-EU countires but not the UK?

The European Union has trade deals with 55 non-EU countries. However the EU is still unable to reach a trade agreement with the United Kingdom after four years of negotiations.

Among the 55 non-EU countries with a trade agreement with the EU are: Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Chile, Egypt, Faroe Islands, Georgia, Bailiwick of Guernsey, Iceland, Isle of Man, Israel, Japan, Bailiwick of Jersey, Jordan, Kosovo, Lebanon, Liechtenstein, Mexico, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, Norway, Palestinian, San Marino, Serbia, Singapore, South Africa, South Korea, Switzerland, Tunisia, Turkey, Ukraine, Vietnam.

 

....of course it has a trade deal, what do you think WTO rules are? What I think your trying to get at is the UK doesn't have a more advantageous set of rules for certain products and services other than those defined in the WTO treaty.
Perhaps for the sake of balance and illustration list those countries with which the EU does not, as you say "have a trade deal" that might be more interesting.

 

They've not been negotiating anything for four years and certainly not just a trade agreement. A normal trade agreement between major nations often takes years to negotiate and Brexit brings a whole load of additional complications. None of this is a good thing but it shouldn't be in nay way surprising or unexpected.

 

The problem is the EU has so much to lose if it can no longer sell many goods to the UK. The EU at the moment and throughout, seem very non-committal. I still get the impression they are playing a game with the aim of stopping Brexit and are using the Irish border situation as a good excuse.

Mind you Theresa May's complete waste of three years on a nothing deal didn't help much either.

 

True, though the UK stand to loose proportionally more. Politically speaking, where the issues fall will be as significant as how much though. For example, there is a lot of attention on fishing despite it being a relatively small proportion of either economy.

I very much doubt that. Nobody can expect Brexit to not happen one way or another and I'm sure the EU negotiators are just trying to do exactly the same thing as the UK ones - get the best outcome they can from their point of view. The difficulty is that there are lots of conflicting sticking points for both sides and, ultimately, the outcome isn't going to be good for anyone, at least in the short term.

 

But no deal at all is a very different outcome from "get the best outcome they can from their point of view."

Critics have pointed out that one aspect of the EU is smaller economies profiting at the expense of the larger economies like Germany and the UK, so "get best outcome they can from their point of view" probably sums it up quite well.

 

When do you think the EU will get tired of China and Russia ripping them off? I'm guessing 15 to 20 years but that may be a little hopeful on my part.

 

Smaller economies can gang up against the larger economies and outvote them, forcing them to change their policies. The UK has been outvoted in such a manner in the EU and as a consequence has had little say in anything to do with the EU.

 

S T O P !!!

The EU is unable to to reach a deal with the UK???

Sorry, but this is rubbish! It is the UK that is unable to reach a deal with the EU due to impudent cherry picking attempts towards the EU and a thinking in mind like the British Empire is still existing and being a world power like the US, what is only bullshit in reality.

So if you want to make a finger pointing, then make it please towards London and not towards Brussels!

 

Ehm ... do you like truth, facts and reality? Or do you like more what you like to hear, no matter what truth is?

About half = around 50% of UK exports go into the EU ... not even 5% of total EU exports go into UK! So who is in a more worse situation again?

Sure, some branches depend more on business and axports to the UK as others ... for example go 14% of German cars to the UK. But also her ein reverse ... about half of all cars build in the UK are exported into the EU!

And I found an interview this morning with one of your UK politicians really ridiculous regarding the current total travel ban of the EU against the UK because of the Corona mutation. He was outraged about it ... to which he got the answer: "You are no longer in the EU according to your own wishes, so the internal club rules no longer apply to you, but the same as to everyone else outside the EU. So live with all the consequences of Brexit, including this consequence! I curled up laughing ... because that hit the nail on the head!

 

The fact is we believe we are better off outside of the EU than in it.

We are one of the leading economic powers in Europe alongside of Germany and we have lost more than we have gained from being a part of the EU.

We have lost a significant amount of our fishing waters and businesses are literally swamped by a mountain bureaucratic EU rules and regulations which will always severely hamper small business but as a consequence favour big business instead. We are a net contributor to the EU, i.e. we pay more to the EU than we get back, whereas many countries in the EU are not. It costs us money remaining in the EU.

And you accuse the UK of "cherry picking"? At moment it looks as if the EU wants to take literally everything from the UK. Not just happy with taking a huge chunk of our fishing waters and demanding a yearly tribute, if the EU had its way we would eventually lose our independent system of government and the right to make our own laws, and we would lose the privilege to create and control our own currency which is a severe disadvantage in times of economic uncertainty. At the moment it looks like there is far more democracy outside of the EU than in it.

 

OK ... then to the real truth...

Not a fact, but a thinking. You made the decision to be outside the EU ... so live with the consquences then in all matters too.
And by the way, it is not really a majority who want to be out of the EU in the UK ... but this does not matter, you voted to go out, then go out!

Not true by fact ... because people in the UK simply and fast forget that this was not always the time and that the UK was once in the situation as Spain, Italy and even Greece now = getting much more money from the EU as paying it to the EU. And also people of the Pro-Brexit group always forget trhe so called "UK rebate"... you know of it? Here to read ... and in short: 66% of all payments from UK to EU, were the next day back in London!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_rebate

We are too ... and so what?
It is always the case, as it is now, that you Brexiteers only list the disadvantages and bring them in a bold headline, but talk small / smaller the advanteges than they are and sometimes even keep quiet about them, or even often lie.
Let's take the UK rebate and take a look at this stupid red bus from the Brexit campaign once. What es it again?
Oh yes .. "We send the EU 350 million GBP a week - let's found our NHS insteed".
What a bold lie in a slogan! Point 1: It's not £ 350 million, it's £ 350 million minus 66% that will be back the next day ... AND ... why isn't that 66% invested in the NHS, eh? Is that the EU's fault? Seriously?

O ... really? So well ... lets take a look:
You mentioned above the fishing waters ... and yes, the EU demands an access etc. But do you know that the reality is that UK won't allow further way as it is was, but demands to have further access as it was to the fishing waters of all EU members further?
I call this British Cherry Picking ...
Or this silly discussion about free movement in the EU, what annoys you in the UK about all these Eastern Europeans working in the UK and so on ... You Brexiteers wnat to kick them all out in extreme, but in usual tell who can come and who not from other EU countries. Nice ... but can the other EU member states then do in reverse towards UK citizens? O dear ... of course not, because British must have further full access as usual here was the negotiation demand of the UK!
I call this British Cherry Picking!
Or with the same standards as in environmental protection, for example, but also in other social matters or in occupational health and safety and product safety. The Brexit people say "no" here ... because they no longer want to be bound by EU rules and claim that the EU accepts this. Just why should the EU accept that? Because you are the British? That the two non-EU members Norway and Switzerland have also signed an agreement with the EU, which you refuse to do, which is simply kept quiet. Apart from that, anyone worldwide who wants to export purely to the EU must meet EU requirements, for example in terms of product safety and the corresponding standards, etc. But you Brits don't want that and demand that the EU accept it ... and that's what I call British Cherry Picking!

More examples?

 

...you have a seat at both tables?

 

Why are there those endless truck lines since weeks, going towards the UK.
Simple, the UK can not live without EU products. Now the borders are closed and the UK is fooked.

 

Well looks like an agreement between France and UK has been done to test drivers. Sorry to disappoint you. (what I have been hearing about the carry on in Germany, well that is another thing )

 

Disapointed ?.

Tell me what you have heard about Germany ?

 

Be interesting to see how and where they are going to test all these poor drivers and how long the results take to come back... Kent is already gridlocked and East Sussex is next I guess when the queue reached the New Forest the Nimby brigade will be activated and stiff letters to the Times will get the powers that into action!

Bloody Macron....the frog wanker should be hauled up by the balls and slapped with a wet haddock until the fukcing lorry queue reaches Dorset....bloody stupid french tosser. I bet if there were 2000 French onion sellers on bikes wearing stripey jumpers all stuck in Calais it'd be a different matter....

 

Its not just Macaroni, the EU locked down, from airports to ports, nothing goes, out or ingoing to the UK.
A day or two more of this mess and Southern UK might tip over, because of all the trucks parked there.

But look at the bright side, a nice test for a hard Brexit

 

...and the sad fact is that they already have it their countries anyway so pretending to put up road blocks is laughable...

 

The real sad thing is, that virus mutation was found in Brazil in the Spring.

They might have it or probably have.
Switzerland is hunting for over 2000 Brits in its Skiing Resorts. They got it for sure.

But nobody needs more infested Brits, who knows what else they got.
Hihihihihihihi, besides the UKWUFU Flu.

 

The lines were businesses stockpiling ahead of the WTO tariffs coming into play. Anyway, France is already easing off its border controls so they are not really "closed" beginning tomorrow.

 

56

 

Great NEWS, don't you think so ?

 

The new strain seems to have started in the South East. Kent and Sussex in fact. Coincidentally, where all the UK Channel ports are.
Makes you wonder if it came to the UK via the continent rather than the other way around.

 

Depends on the fine details of course but any deal is better than no deal.
I don't think the British public can take increased prices due to tariffs right now. Food is expensive enough.