EU PANIC: Brussels rocked by 'DESPAIR' over future role of Farage and Boris Johnson

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    Hands up who thinks EU is like the USA?
    *If you raised your hand, you're a moron.

    I saw Raw Politics on Euronews yesterday, they called Brexit 'the B word' and some idiot asked;
    "Why doesn't EU have its own passport when USA does?"

    The answer as I said to the TV when I heard that come in was/is:
    Because USA's a country, duh.

    Idiots even have to ask such a question is stupendous, and then you see the presenters dance around their delusion comparing EU to USA with a split second pause for the endorphins in their silly little brains to be released over the prospect of EU being like a European USA.

    EU has no freedom.
    EU has no sovereignty.
    EU has no history.
    EU has no passport.
    EU has no armed defense.
    EU has no language.
    EU has no culture.
    EU has no respect.
    EU has no beauty.
    EU has no soul.
    EU has no groove.
    EU has nothing but a bunch of self hating Europeans it seems.
    EU is not your country because EU is not a country.

    Would anyone give EU a seat at the UN? Probably not.

    Bunch of morons need to get real.

    Europe for the most part is a backwards shithole so stupid they think the EU is the best thing since sliced bread; That's how stupid Europe can be.


    Anyone in the UK who wants to be in the EU without reformation of the EU is an idiot.
     
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    WTF??? :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    UK negotiation demands as "free movement in EU is bad ... but we demand that all UK citizens will have further in the complete EU, but we decide who from EU will get" is no cherry picking? And the Brexit Idiots really and seriously think this is OK and the EU has to accept such a bullshit? O dear ...

    Come on, get realities!
     
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    Well, since the UK didn't get what it wants, high time UK leaves.
     
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    The EU rejected the UK's demands for a better deal in EU.

    If the UK could cherry pick, then other countries who vote to leave should too until the whole system is undermined.
     
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    EU has no freedom.... it has by fact
    EU has no sovereignty. ... it has by fact
    EU has no history.... sure ... it started in steps beginning in 1951 = now 68 years = no history!
    EU has no passport.... no, and why should? But the EU has also rules about the passport itself and where and when it is necessary inside the EU
    EU has no armed defense.... because the EU is no state, never told to be a state and does not act like a state
    EU has no language.... Correct, but so what?
    EU has no culture.... it has 27 main cultures
    EU has no respect.... Lol ... against impudent Brexit idiots who lie 24h / day for sure not, as against alkl enemies not and must not have!
    EU has no beauty.... but the US and UK have beauty? Since when?
    EU has no soul.... it has
    EU has no groove.... lol .... says the dead man about the EU!
    EU has nothing but a bunch of self hating Europeans it seems.... lol, hating idiots from outside, yes and this is great they have!
    EU is not your country because EU is not a country... and it never told to be a country, only Brexit idiots tell this crap!


    Would anyone give EU a seat at the UN? Probably not. ... because the EU is no country and has no goal to get? Ever thought about this!

    So in conclusion ... do you have any facts or only this bullcrap above to discuss about?

    Definition EU:

    The European Union (EU) is a federation of currently 28 member states (minus UK). Outside the geographical Europe, the EU includes Cyprus and some overseas territories. It has a total of more than half a billion inhabitants. Measured in terms of gross domestic product, the EU internal market is the largest common economic area on earth. The EU is a separate legal entity and therefore has the right to inspect and speak at the United Nations. The most common languages in the EU are English, German and French. In 2012, the European Union was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize!

    The EU's political system, which has evolved as a result of European integration, is based on the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It contains both supranational and intergovernmental elements. While the individual states are represented by their governments in the European Council and the Council of the European Union, the European Parliament directly represents EU citizens in EU legislation. The European Commission as an executive body and the EU Court of Justice as the judicial authority are also supranational bodies.
     
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    Because people from poor arse countries and no education can come to the UK without a visa and live and work in the UK, without a visa.
    If the UK was like Lativa or Romania, fair, but UK is not a poor arse country like Latvia or Romania so people come to the UK which means freedom of movement does nothing for the people in the UK, and why can't people from richer countries have freedom of movement?
    Fairness over equality.
     
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    Sure ... no one told that UK is not allowed to try cherry picking ... but must the EU accept such impudence? No!

    But the idiots which were send by UK to negotiations had never any deal to get in mind ... they were of these sorts of morons who want a no deal.

    And again: That the UK is still a member in EU is only the guilt of the UK. The UK must only tell to EU we want to leave the EU with the deal ... or we want to leave with no deal! So... why does UK not tell this simple thing to the EU. It is oonly a decision of UK which is necessary here!
     
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    And? You demanded to have free movement to these countries too, so you have to acept free movement from them to you too. Sorry ... impudence pure from UK!
    And if people like you are too stubborn to understand and accept that you negotiate with the complete EU and its 27 members, represented by members of the EU Council and EU Commission ... then it is your problem, If you hate this, your problem and we only laugh about this idiocy of hate ... Get real and face facts!
     
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    No deal is better than a bad deal.

    Get poor arse unskilled people back to the EU and give someone else their UK job.
     
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    EU is nothing because ain't no one in the EU Parliament can be elected in their own country.
    A body of the otherwise unelectables wanting things for their own countries.
    That's going to work like a dream ;)
     
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    I have no clue? I get a laugh ...

    Get the fact that I want to have you kicked out of the EU ... no matter if you want Brexit or not at least. But you in the UK are to incompetent and too stupid to tell the EU if you want to leave with the deal or with no deal! This is the problem.. only problem!

    And America? Sure ... become their new toy and puppet and have fun!
     
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    F*** ... then tell the EU that you want to leave the EU with a "No Deal" and piss off from EU finally But no ... this has also no majority in the f***ing UK parliament too ... as the deal has no majority!
     
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    Lol ... go back, learn facts and then come back please!
     
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    For the crime of what?
     
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    Gladly, **** the EU.

    Or what, it's back to being the EU's puppet and toy?

    **** that.

    At least America has dignity.
     
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    EU has no dignity because EU isn't reformed.
    EU has no dignity because no one in the EU votes for their president.

    USA, has dignity because people vote for their president there.
    EU can't say the same.

    In WWII, EU was on the wrong side of that war when UK comes out of the EU, what dignity did Hitler have?

    EU is a fourth reich nightmare on Europe.
     
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    Some European on Euronews complaining about cheap Chinese bicycles flooding the EU.
    Doesn't this idiot know it's the same for Freedom of Movement?
    Cheap EU workers flooding the labour market in the UK.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    And if all claims are refuted, we go back to WW-2, eh? Sorry ... get better points as this crap!

    Since when are Chinese part of the EU and freemovement agreement?

    Anyway ... ask yourself why other EU members have no problems with any flooding cheap workers who allegedly rob locals the job (what is a lie btw) ... as for example Germany does not have, eh?

    The answer is that the Brits are too stupid to make depending and fitting laws which comply with EU rules ...

    Lol .... as member of the EU the UK has the same weight as any other of the members at decisions ... and it has also a negotiation power or why do you think Thatcher could enforce the British discount in the 1980's?

    But towards the USA, you have nothing ... absolutly nothing of weight. You depend only the mercy of them and are a toy and nothing more!
     
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    Well Brexit was the UK rejecting the EU's four freedoms.


    WWII happened and the EU (except for UK) was on the losing side.
    Deny it, laugh, do what you want to escape the truth.
     
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    So that makes it okay to moan about China doing what Romania and Latvia does? You must sign up to something before ******** over something now?

    **** the EU freedom of movement for flooding on to the UK.
     
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    Show me the Free Movement Law, which contains Chinese bikes. Say ... what did you smoke for funny things to write such a nonsense?

    Again, if the UK is too stupid to make working and EU compliant laws against wage sanctions against wage dumping, underpaid jobs and moonlighting as any other in the EU did, then the British are to be blamedfor having an "invasion" as you call it ... and not the EU. Logical and based on facts!

    So problem is not free-movement and the EU, but again British incompetence and stupidity ... with the meanwhile common attempt by the Brexeteers to blame the EU for their own British failure.

    Hell ... then tell the EU with political majority that you want to leave with no deal and then you are our of the EU! Please do this finally .... but you don't and that is your guilt!

    Interesting ... aside facts only the unimportant and uninteresting hint to WW-2 again. Sorry ... this 70 years agao and no one cares for this really anymore for todays business! Get real please!
     
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    Chinese bikes aren't any more harmful because China never signed up to be in the EU.
    That's like saying Latvians and Romanians get a free pass to do what Chinese bikes are doing.

    The problem isn't that someone signed up but someone else didn't, it's that it exists; Freedom of movement is green lighting what China are doing for all those in the club.
    If that's the club, why would UK want to be in it?
     
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    Yes ... but so what? Maybe the EU does make an error here to not implement high tariffs on the import of these bikes to protect the own bike companies in the EU member states ... I don't know .. but what the hack has thius to do with free movement please?

    At free movement we are talking about European citizens who can free move inside the EU and wirk and live in any EU member state they want. This is free movement ... and this is a good thing!
    Of course should this not end in any flood of black working, wage dumping ... or even social benefit tourismn ... and so every EU member state is allowed to make laws to prevent this all. Germany did this ... Netherland did this ... France did this ... Italy did this ... all of the richer Western EU members did this ... ONLY UK NOT! So ... who is evil now?

    So get real please .... don't blame the EU for things whch the Brits have caused by their own due to incompetence!

    And the most funny thing is .... the UK was as EU member totally free to say "No, we won't participate at free movement" ... as they still once said No to the Schengen agreement too. No ... these crazy Brits are so special and better as all other 27 members ... they want to get their special treatment of course: "All Brits have in all other 27 countries full movement... but we decide whom of these other 27 we give free movement too".
    And you really rate this as a correct British behaviour to be so impudent?
     
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    UK isn't doing enough to protect itself from EU migrants, I know.
    UK ought to have harder borders to make sure the uneducated can't just walk in and settle without a good reason such as seeking asylum.

    You want to flood labour markets with cheap imports, but protect EU markets from cheap imports?

    Every EU migrant without a college degree washing cars and busting tables is no better than a Chinese bicycle; under cutting the local population taking unskilled jobs.
    We need protectionism in the EU and to end freedom of movement like the import of cheap bicyles.


    Protectionism protects the locals against poor ass workers.
     
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    You miss thsi topic totally ....

    It is not about making hte border harder ... even UK was all the time allowed to make a hard border as they want to other EU members, simply because no member of Schengen agreement!
    It is about making working laws to preivent the miss use of freemovement in the EU for what you are complaining! In short: The UK miss all thislegal issues what other had implemented.

    We are talking about people from EU member states on one side ... but on cheap imports from outside the EU. Somehow 2 totally different things, eh?

    Protectionism to protect the own pwople against miss use of others from outside is OK ... but then should also a protecting measure = laws be done and enforced to make this protecting ... AND NOT TO BLABBER BULLCRAP INSTEAD AND BLAMING ALL AND EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO BE BAD AND EVIL AND GUILTY FOR OWN INCOMPETENCE!!!!
     

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