EU to bypass US sanctions on Iran

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    So very much winning. I don't know how much more of this winning we can take.



    EU plan to sidestep Iran sanctions: How will it work?

    The EU's vow to keep trading with Tehran despite new US sanctions is causing further friction with Washington. The creation of a special purpose vehicle (SPV) will help facilitate payments between Iran and Europe.

    What exactly is the EU's Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV)?

    The foreign ministers of the EU, Germany, France, Britain, Russia and China agreed on Tuesday to set up a new mechanism to facilitate legitimate trade between European companies and Iran. The goal: To bypass United States sanctions, which have been reintroduced after US President Donald Trump withdrew from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal.

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    https://www.dw.com/en/eu-plan-to-sidestep-iran-sanctions-how-will-it-work/a-45647007

    Pobeda. That's Russian for winning. MAGA (the Moscow Asset Governing America) is helping Russia to alienate our country and draw closer to the EU at our expense.
     
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    so when iran attacks us or israel, we need to sends a few of our cruse missle in thier :fight:EU, Germany, France, Britain, direction too
    only seems logical since they are weasles now:mad:
     
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    The EU is in desperate need of Iranian Oil, that's why they'll continue trading. A very similar issue arose when the Obama Administration first sanctioned the Iranians, and the EU barely got on board. That's one reason why Putin said the sanctions weren't coming back. EU's not going to do that to themselves twice.(Especially not if they want to stop buying Russian Oil.)
     
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    Why would they need Iranian oil in particular?
     
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    I don't know. I'm guessing they maxed out oil from other EU member states/US.
     
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    That seems like it should be a temporary condition, what with our production going up and green energy making headway. EVs and HFCs are on their merry way.
     
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    U.S. withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal in 2018 meant that Iran didn't receive some of the billions of dollars of economic benefits it was promised when it entered the agreement. Now, France, Germany and the U.K. have formed a company intended to direct funds and goods to Iran, bypassing U.S. sanctions. Nick Schifrin talks to David O’Sullivan, EU ambassador to the U.S., about their motivation.​
     
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    Sounds like a serviceable plan, until our next President gets us back in the Iran deal.... Of all the stupid decisions by Donald Trump, this might actually go down as the worst (I know... hard to rank them all)
     
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    trumps foreign policy is a disaster.
     
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    It really is, but many of them have the same, and likely a cumulative, effect. Under his "leadership," the US has become too much like he is personally - a great petty-minded bully that will cut its nose off to spite its face.
     
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    Well! This wild claim didn't age well!

    As a result of reimposed U.S. sanctions, European airlines Air France, British Airways, and KLM ended service to Iran last year. European companies Total, Siemens, and Volkswagen also withdrew from Iran, along with U.S. companies GE, Boeing, and Honeywell and the Russian oil firm Lukoil. In November, Germany’s Bundesbank changed its rules so it could reject an Iranian request to withdraw 300 million euros from Hamburg-based trade bank Europäische-Iranische Handelsbank, to protect the central bank’s relationships with institutions in “third countries.” That is, the United States.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/donald-trumps-iran-deal-withdrawal-is-clear-success/
     
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    We all signed the deal. Trump was the one who weaseled out.
     
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    The Trumpkins keep talking about erasing Obama's legacy. What legacy will Trump have besides the huge party when he leaves office? The Iran deal and Paris agreement will almost certainly be re-entered. The USMCA will be referred to as NAFTA if it even gets approved. We will probably even enter the TPP and Obamacare will live on.

    I guess we can frame the love letters from Kim Jun Un for his library.

    Is there anything he has done that will last 2 years after he has left office?
     
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    yeah i guess you didnt read the article in the op. some airlines dropping service isnt going to stop travel to and from iran.

    you also forget, the usa cant check on irans nuclear effort either.
     
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    Big mistake

    Someday the EU will be threatened by iran with the same nukes as the US and Israel
     
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    I most certainly did NOT forget this. This is why Trump stopped certify ongoing compliance, because he had no effective way double checking them.

    A disturbing report concerning the Arak reactor arose late last month when Ali Akbar Salehi, the head of Iran’s nuclear agency, claimed that Iran did violate the JCPOA by faking disabling the reactor and filling it with cement, and that Iran secretly acquired banned equipment to keep the reactor functional. If true, this would mean Iran fooled the JCPOA parties and IAEA inspectors on a major compliance issue. The IAEA has not commented publicly on the matter.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/donald-trumps-iran-deal-withdrawal-is-clear-success/
     
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    If the EU keeps the deal alive... the Democrats if elected in 2020 may well reverse Trump's position on the Iran deal
     
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    Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and a thoroughly ruined political party...

    But we did get to see America's Mayor turned into a complete loser... so we have that going for us..
     
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    You think?? It's a lock if it's still available..
    Day 1...
     
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    Those idiots appeased Hitler too. It won't be long before they extend the range of their missiles ready for their upcoming Nukes, to hit further than eastern Europe, Greece and Italy. What are they going to do when they demand more and more? They'll be demanding fighter jets by then. The EU need not cry to us for help. We need to pull out of NATO NOW!
     
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    It's all about making money for the Europeans.

    Besides, they still have the U.S. to protect them in case Iran goes completely rogue.
     
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    Not at all surprised to see Germany in bed with putin and Iran
     
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    Perhaps it is time to sanction the EU.
     
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    Wrong, Trump pulled out unilaterally.
     
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    Obama's deal required that Trump quarterly certify their compliance when Trump had no way of certifying their compliance, Silly!

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    Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

    Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

    Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/donald-trumps-iran-deal-withdrawal-is-clear-success/

    Of course I'm not surprised that you would carry water for the regime that shouts DEATH TO AMERICA regularly at gatherings.
     

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