Europe need death penalty now !

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by VotreAltesse, Mar 27, 2018.

  1. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Civil war, that's the war who could happen.

    If human behaviour were ruled solely by cold logic, that would be a well know fact and it isn't.

    Civil war can happen, as destructive it is, as merciless it is.


    I don't like that much death penalty. I don't like the possibility of killing an innocent. By the way, if we could know with 100 % possibility if someone were guilty, but it's not the case.

    There is something who disgust me even more : laxism.

    Letting dangerous or sadistic people free.
     
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    If there's the slightest doubt whatsoever, there should be no death penalty; but where there's circumstantial evidence backed up by DNA or cctv, there will obviously be no doubt. Mad dogs must be put down.
     
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    We already have the death penalty. We call it "honour killing". But I think that last legal death penalty was Alain Delon in "Deux hommes dans la ville".
     
  5. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From Wikipedia and for your edification:
    If you wanna kill somebody don't do it in Belarus!

    BFD ...
     
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    BBCP ... Bring Back Capital Punishment.
     
  7. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know that treaty, what I mean by "EU would do nothing" is that the EU is much too weak to be able to do something significant, especially against a country who give more money than they receive.
     
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  8. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The EU is kinda-sorta like the US, but it is NOT the US. Though larger in population terms, it has not the same Federal Structure.

    It has no really functional cross-EU FBI that can investigate internal corruption and bring people before a court of law. Which is why the new additions (ex-communist countries) are having so much of a difficulty with True Democracy. The massive invasion from Africa of migrants was too much for these countries, so they put up fences. (I frankly do not blame them. The EU misunderstood and ineptly did not react in time to that massive migration. It should have been stopped in Libya - which is not yet a sovereign state and having great difficulty becoming one.)

    Because the ex-communist states have never really known how a functional democracy works. The law is the law, and nobody is above the law.

    For decades upon decades the Communist Party ran Eastern-european countries (and courts!) and that fact was all that mattered in the lives of its peoples...
     
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  9. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Europe, a true democracy ? Most decisions are taken by the european commission thant nobody controle and who isn't elected by any people but by some elites.
    European constitutional treaty was forced on french people who said no to it. Never the membership of the EU was really discussed among the french population furthermore. Even if our medias propaganda singing "without EU, we're all dead" did its job.
    The european parliamant is a joke with few real power.

    EU is a technocracy, a real democracy is switzerland.
     
  10. LafayetteBis

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    All EU-laws of consequence are a matter of "treaties" amongst the nations. Said treaties outline the basic-laws that are implemented at the country-level.

    These "treaties" (Maastrich Treaty is a prime example) are negotiated between the EU Commission and the countries years and years before they become signature-treaties and then "laws" of a nation.


    I would never ask the French people to even "pee-in-a-pot". They would spend a decade deciding who did what, where and when.

    The US Constitution was never voted by the people either. Voting on constitutional law by popular-vote is not done in any major economy. It would take forever.

    Which is why nations concoct "legislatures" to do so.

    You are pissing up the wrong tree ...
     
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  11. MGB ROADSTER

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    I say shoot them before they stab you or run over you with a truck.
    Death penalty will not bring the dead back.
     
  12. VotreAltesse

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    The politician of those countries.

    If we weren't always protesting against anything, we wouldn't be french anymore.

    I wouldn't express myself about USA, but my point is still valid, European Union isn't a democracy, it's a technocracy. Not surprizing considering the first president of the european comission was a former nazi.
     
  13. LafayetteBis

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    The French bitch-'n-moan because it is endemic to their nature. Must be due to common gene at the origin of the species.

    Here we are today presently in the middle of two strikes over pay rises, and nobody actually knows what the average payscale is for any profession. (Pilots are on strike and they make anywhere from 3000 to 6000 euros a month! Ya gotta be kidding!)

    In the US, you can go here and find the average salary for over 800 professions. And nobody can tell me that France's "INSEE" (national statistics office) could not do the same analysis were it authorized to do so.

    But no, we can't have that in France can we? Imagine knowing somebody's probable salary!
    Ouch!

    Well, in fact, we can - but for only one profession. I did ask INSEE if they ever did a study of professional incomes. And they did, but only one. Of Public Notaries - this special class of very special people. (They think they walk on water.)

    Public Notaries were invented by Napoleon to prepare and be responsible for the conduction of business transactions. You can't buy or sell property in France without one. This makes them, therefore, unavoidable in any realty transaction.

    And, since they have managed to keep the number of Public Notaries to a minimum, their services are costly. In fact,
    the INSEE study shows that they earned (in 2007, the only year the study was conducted) 240K euros per year, whilst an ordinary lawyer made "only" one quarter as much (64K euros). The rip-off is patently obvious.

    And that's what's all wrong about France. In any economy, it is good to know what different categories of work are earning since such information is often key to how a market-economy should be managed. Or, is being mismanaged.

    Bollocks and double bollocks.

    You've got it all wrong. Postwar Europe was first bound together by a highly-functional economic trade agreement (instigated by a Frenchman, btw, by the name of Jean Monnet). From there, and because that worked marvelously well to create jobs, it then moved on to its inevitable formation into the European Union it is today.

    All is well in the EU, despite your distaste for the evidently good results. (Et tant pis pour vous de toute façon!)
     
  14. LafayetteBis

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    One should make love, not debate.

    Ultimately, one is MUCH better off with the result ... ;^)
     
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    Relationship with death penalty ? I'm not a big fan of strike or even how french people consider economy.




    Good for you. And how is it related to death penalty ?

    Our economical difficults are not a big secret, aswell the problem with mentalities inside the country. And ?

    Good results ? Debt, unemployment and insecurity for a lot of people ? The EU isn't germany alone.
     
  16. VotreAltesse

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    That's a joke. I know how we the french are, our own flaws, and most french people knows it.
     
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    Not to worry VotreAltesse, we've got them here too - we call them 'the useful idiots'. They think they know everything when in fact they know nothing.
     
  18. LafayetteBis

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    Silly comment taken out of perspective.

    Under what sheets were you hiding when the Great Recession hit the US in 2010? Then Uncle Same exported it to Europe the following year, when unemployment rates skyrocketed. Where were you?

    Do you know, in that trite bunker of yours, recessions are exportable/importable in this interconnected world economy of ours?

    Exit your mental bunker, and see the world for what it really is. Linked economically ...
     
  19. VotreAltesse

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    Economical difficulties didn't started with the recession of 2010... Since Maastricht treaty, the economy in many countries of EU is lame, the EU is adapted to some countries, far to be adapted to most of countries.
     
  20. LafayetteBis

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    Yes, they did.

    See here:
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    And they still aren't out of the shat ...
     
  21. LafayetteBis

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    Guttaral stoopidity.

    How do you prove that they have committed a crime before a court of law? So you don't because you can't.

    So just shoot them if they are holding a gun and it looks like they wanna commit crime?

    Stoopid is as stoopid does ... and that is why police are killing people left and right just because they think there is a threat.

    I meet a lot of Yanks who have lived in France for years. And they aint goin' back!.

    To what? A country that looks more and more like an open-air shooting gallery?

    Nope, no way ...
     
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    Debt and high unemployment are problems in western Europe for a long time.
     
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    I will not curse as you have .. Loww
    Just add that YES !! if they are holding a gun and it looks like they wanna commit crime - Shoot.
    They are not holding an olive branch ... :hiding:
     

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