Events similar to 9/11: Pirelli Tower, Empire State Building

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  1. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    One of the curious things that you don't hear about 9/11 is how much the south tower moved horizontally when the plane impacted.

    FIFTEEN INCHES!

    Now what does that tell you about how well the building could handle the impact?

    But the tower was designed to sway 36 inches at the top in a 150 mph wind. So at the 81st floor it should have only moved 26 inches. So the plane only took the building to 60% of its design capacity.

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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And it withstood it well but could not withstand the resulting conflagration over time. If there had been no fire, the buildings would probably still be standing if they could have been repaired before a major wind came along.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Because jews,part 11
    'youskys'?:confusion:
     
  4. holston

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    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it#Zionist_Jews_in_all_the_Right_Positions.21

     
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    I would prefer to keep this discussion focused on the building structure,
    rather than political rants about anti-Semites .... ( or? )

    The simple fact is that for two separate buildings aircraft crash & fires
    is alleged to be the cause of total destruction of the structures.
    HOWEVER, has anyone ever thought about what would have happened
    if the physical connections within the structure, say on the south side of
    the south tower, let-go in advance of any of the other bits of the building?
    that would cause a shift in the loading on the lower part of the building and
    indeed would most probably result in the building being damaged, but NOT
    destroyed. You see, the official "report" on the subject sez
    " total collapse was inevitable ..... " but does NOT explain WHY
    WE THE PEOPLE paid for that report, shouldn't we demand that we get
    our monies worth? ......
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only shift in loading would be at the site of the crash and where the collapse sequence started.
     
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    So you accept it as an absolute
    that is "total collapse was inevitable ...... "
    for both towers ..... right?

    or?
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Your do not know much about how buildings are built and how they differ greatly in how they react to major impacts, you are comparing apples and oranges to prove a theory that has not basis.
     
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    Since the planes themselves came close to taking them down and they lasted for awhile but collapsed, yes I accept that the evidence proves that the collapse was inevitable since they collapsed.

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    Don't you know that all buildings are have been built the same for over 2000 years whether they have been or not?
     
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    The really super HUGE question here is did the building have help
    in "collapsing" (that is explosives... ) or was the "collapse" a result of an airliner crash?
     
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    Didn't need help.
     
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    since there are experts who will argue for either side of this case,
    the one thing that people need to be aware of, is that the final judgement
    on this subject is on YOU, the court of public opinion is in session and
    WE THE PEOPLE must examine the evidence carefully and deliberate with care,
    to render a proper judgement. Have you considered well the evidence?
     
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    The same type of we the people that burned witches at the stake. I take your judgement in context. Consider Occam's Razor.
     
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    Exactly!

    Just like people need to weed out the garbage evidence from the real evidence

    Garbage such as your "evidence" below:

    1. Your incorrect "8X drag" garbage in another thread
    2. You saying the holes in the towers created by the plane impacts were "identical"
    3. You saying the tail went into the building when it is clear it did not
    4. The fact that you cannot explain how your "understanding" of the conservation of momentum law is applied to impacting complex objects

    Need I go on?
     
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    "3. You saying the tail went into the building when it is clear it did not"

    OK, where is the tail of any one of the aircraft "FLT11", "FLT175", "FLT77", or "FLT93"
    Please show me.

    also note that to accelerate an aircraft from 250 to 500 mph
    is a doubling of the speed, and if the POWER required to propel
    the aircraft to that speed goes up by the CUBE ( and it does ... )
    then the factor is 2^3 .... that is 8 ... therefore the factor is 8X the
    POWER required to propel the aircraft to 500 mph as opposed to
    250 mph.
     
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    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Why should there be a tail left? Are you comparing this to other crashes?

    Correct. And you got it WRONG in your previous posts and chalked it up to "misspeaking".

    :roll:
     
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    Another thing. How to you know it wasn't completely destroyed by the impact and subsequent explosion? I see pieces of debris falling after impact in some videos.

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    Are you going to address the inwardly bent perimeter columns and the inward crimp of the aluminum cladding? How did explosives create these from OUTSIDE the perimeter columns?
     
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    The "no planes theory" is a crock of bull invented by disinformation Hasbara to discredit the 9/11 truth movement and distract uninformed people from the real evidence which PROVES foreknowledge, controlled demolitions, and cover up.
     
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    You've had over 12 years to provide that 'real evidence'...so far you have not.

    just supposition and lies.

    Oh,and bigotry.
     
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    You left out 12 years of war and just as much media propaganda.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    NO I didn't...we aren't discussing the war,we aren't discussing the media,we ARE discussing your failure to provide even a SHRED of evedence backing your claim.

    period.
     
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    I've posted plenty of evidence. There's so much of it that it's difficult to decide which items to post since there are too many to put on even several pages, let alone one. That's why it's often easier to post a link to a film which covers the subject.

    As usual, there are many well made films which cover most of the prominent features which have been edited by disinformation agents such as yourself with various bits of misinformation.

    I heard Alex Jones on a popular late night radio show the last night in which he commented on the ongoing process by people of wealth and power to establish a global government. For the US he mentioned the "Anglo-Saxon" establishment as being the dominant power structure.
    I could not help but notice that he, like other syndicated radio talk show hosts, feel perfectly at ease with calling the "Anglo-Saxons" out. Likewise it is permissible to pin the blame on the Bush administration for 9/11.
    In fact. one may accuse ANYONE or ANY GROUP associated with ANY ethnicity or religion of ANYTHING,

    EXCEPT...... you guessed it...................the Jews.

    It is simply not politically correct to even mention them with reference to the economy, 9/11, the mores of Hollywood, the middle east wars and foreign policy or anything else. That is if one expects to retain a position in the national spotlight. Anyone who did so and remained there for any length of time would only be there to serve as an object for public scorn and ridicule.

    So it is no wonder to me that youskys would continue to defend a criminal cabal which happened to be comprised of Jews. It is YOU therefore who are responsible for lumping them all in the same basket since you yourselves are incapable of differentiating between the criminal and non-criminal elements of your own ethic group.

    I know of no other ethic, or racial group that conforms so readily to the internal groups dynamics as the Jews.


    I wouldn't hesitate to call a murderer a murderer, a thief a thief, or a liar a liar just because he called himself a white Anglo Saxon or even if he CALLED himself a "Christian".

    Jews on the other hand are willing to shelter and defend even the worst of criminals so long as their presence would seem to benefit the Jews altogether, the so called "Russian mob" for example.
    It's exactly this kind of thinking which causes schisms to form around racial and religious lines. You leave your "rivals" no choice but to respond in kind or submit to your hegemony.

    If this was not true, then there would be no taboo of political incorrectness against pursuing justice against Jewish criminals or stating the obvious fact of who they are representing. Those who are at a minimum guilty of ALLOWING 9/11 to happen, would be sought out. But because this would clearly implicate Zionist factions, it is forbidden to even openly suggest the possibility without receiving immediate reprisal.

    If this was not true, then there would be a public demand that those who had FOREKNOWLEDGE of 9/11 and those who facilitated the attacks be ferreted out, the media not withstanding.

    Or need I remind you that is because of that pivotal event that this whole "war on terror" was launched and all of the mid-east wars started?

    The American public is reminded of this everyday. And we are told that that it is necessary that we sacrifice Constitutional rights and submit to unrestricted surveillance "for our own safety".

    The 9/11 attacks have served as the justification for all of these illegal and tyrannical acts.
    And if the Jewish coalition isn't behind this push then no one else could be, because it's clear that nothing passes the Jewish censors which even hints at the possibility, let alone is given a national platform to air the evidence to that effect in public.

    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force
    What they are saying is that they intend to quash anything which challenges the Jewish Zionist agenda. And they call that "anti-Semitism" whether it's true or not!


    They speak as though their international consortium is a "grass roots" effort.

    The "Tea Party" and "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth" were both grass roots movements, each of which has been hijacked and is carefully monitored by the International Cabal of Jews and their Shabbos Goy business associates who are more obsessed with the acquisition of lucre than securing "A New American Century". They care about as much about the future of the country or the peons which populate it as the Elitist Jews care about the working class the pretend to champion.

    Grass roots movements that don't bear the Kosher seal of approval are subject to the same kind of boycotting that food manufactures are subjected to who don't pay the Rabbis for the privilege of allowing them to sell their products.




    http://ehpg.wordpress.com/israel-did-911/
     
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    Because .... wait for it ...

     
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    Lies...that's all you've posted.

    And because jews,part 17
     
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    Why shouldn't there be any of the tail recognizable in the wreckage?
    These things weigh TONS and so its kinda difficult to simply make it go POOF
    and disappear. What happened to the tail if it didn't enter the building?
     
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