Ever increasing costs of childcare.

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  1. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean in order to lose money you must have children?
    I know that, but I think that families are happier and safer if the quest for money is onerous.
     
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    Garbage, my comments to those who wish to discuss issues do not reflect your criticism. Since I am not the only person discussing this issue regardless of stance, again your pretence of victim status agian points to the truth of your comment.

    Again, you don't have to comment on my posts you don't even have to read them, I do not demand it and I generally ignore your rants. Since some supposed spat you and your compatriots have had with the moderators I have generally not comments on your posts even when you bait with insults, those who read your words, see the truth in your comments,

    For somebody who wants to discuss or debate points so far nothing to contribute to the thread but personal attack. Personally, your attacks are better off the forum.
    Just as here, you did not have to comment, you had the opportunity to comment with others, yet it is your hatred of me that has made you single out my comments and attempt to intimidate with the victim status.

    Again, you disillusion of the forum is not of my making but from your hatred. So many voices yet you have singled me out, just as your compatriot to denigrate and demean because you feel insulted over the fact I do not suffer fools and idiots lightly.

    I noted on your previous identity nothing but the same, so when it was abundantly clear you were being treated with disdain you tried to pretend in others then poor you. Even our first interaction in this form was nothing but your personal attacks.

    So all in all, again, you are free to do what you want and complain as you want, the truth stands forth for all to read. I prefer you would ignore my comments as I generally ignore yours, should you want real discussion then perhaps contribute to threads not just attack people with your hatred. IT is your decision as to whom to talk too and what to say, pretending I am encroaching on your trolling is rather pathetic really, but that is you…
     
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    You know, the issue of family has degraded in a globalised world as in village and community the size of the family meant wealth and safety, as I believe you allude to. The value of children in the community dynamic is far above the dollar value placed upon them.

    Due entirely to the perception of how much children cost, we hear all the time from the media how much it costs, many family units are putting off the raising of children until later in life and some are simply stopping. Creating situation where the populations is getting older and many ignore the real value in family.

    The self-righteous and selfish ideal of what is in it for me is actually killing humanity to the applause of people too stupid to consider the truth. All the time you see people giving birth to children later and later in life so much so that others believe they can put it off a little longer. Soon it will be test tubes and clones until the extinction of the human race simply because many cannot see the true value of children in society…

    However, the problem we have here is a bunch of people who believe paying welfare to maintain a life style is more important than perpetuation of the community, nation and species. So the debate of how to pay for something that is far more important than many issues is made.

    Priorities are wrong in this issue…
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I mean that children are no different than an automobile. If you elect to have one, they will cost you money. To believe that you should not have to pay money for taking care of your children is no more logical than to advocate for free cars and gas for life. If you cannot afford neither, then have neither.
     
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  5. Sallyally

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    Keep the women barefoot and pregnant huh?
     
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    The only long term effect a person has is the children they have. What is the point of us being here otherwise, if not to perpetuate the species. And I don't think you should equate children with cars.
     
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    You don't have to be rich to afford to raise children. You just have to budget and live within your means.
     
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    I agree.
    However it doesn't mean that $200/day for a childcare facility are justified.
    Because in that case normal people cannot afford kids/childcare.
    There are plenty out there earning around $25/h......
    Reg.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not having children has a long term effect as well since overpopulation begins with little snot-nosed CO2 emitting things whose diapers are clogging our landfills who will eventually expect society to give them a free car. And I don't think you should equate having children with a guarantee of free to you benefits paid for by someone else, so I guess we can call it a draw in that regard.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stop expecting massive increases and improved profits and astronomical returns on investments year after year and then the world will realise that we don't need to keep worrying about squaring up the population pyramid. Greed drives our population, and without continued demand our economies would "so called" go backwards. In any instance it will happen and it will happen naturally!
     
  11. Sallyally

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    Ok, whatever.
     

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