Every day hundreds of Dutch school children are forced to bow to Islam

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

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    The video footage above originates from 2016-2018 and especially at the end it becomes clear that many schools visit mosques.
    The Dutch organisation Klap uit de school says that every day several classes of children are forced to have excursions to mosques during which they have to pray for Islam.
    Children are visiting “mosques that frequently invited Salafi preachers, call unbelievers dogs and call for jihad”, Klap uit de school reports on its website.
    “Mosques that are under control of the Turkish government organisation Diyanet, and which are called our barracks by Erdogan,” are visited, as well, according to the website.
    “Dutch children are instructed by the imam to kneel and to pray” which is according to the organisation “not an innocent ritual but part of the Islamic strategy of conquest”.
    The organisation wants to advise parents about their rights in keeping their children away from these sorts of excursions. Another goal is to protect Dutch school children against Islamic indoctrination.
    A full report is available on the website of Klap uit de school, but probably limited to Dutch residents only, as it can only be delivered by post.
    The Netherlands is rapidly waking up from a multicultural dream dominated by Islam. A poll showed that a proposal of Geert Wilders to ban Islamic expressions from public space was widely supported by the public.

    https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/10/e...h-school-children-are-forced-to-bow-to-islam/

    Shocking video footage and a report from the Dutch organisation “Klap uit de school”, show that numerous Dutch children are forced to bow to Islam.
    What has become of Europe ??? Blahhhh
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Do you people even know what the word "credible" means?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you even know what 'debate' on a Debate Board means? If you have a counter argument why not post it?
     
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    I remember doing something like that at school when we went to a Buddhist temple. The monk instructed the kids on how they meditated and we all got to try it. I still consider it a great learning experience from my youth.
     
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    We went to a bakery to watch loaves of bread being made. I never became a baker.

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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    My counter argument is that this was a completely misleading article based on a totally misleading photograph, bs of the purest ray serene. It's been going around on the right wing nut-o-sphere since 2011. Basically an Islamophobe got ahold of a picture where a class of children visited a mosque and were shown how muslims pray. This became proof that the Mahdi Barack was kidnapping our children to be sent to ISIS.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tennessee-schoolchildren-islam/

    The headline itself, when googled, brought up a bunch of other ultra conservative blogs ,but significantly the ONLY known site was the Snopes one. Not ONE major news or wire service seemed to be carrying it. The Voice of Europe and the Eu Times were both just short of the "Tin Foil Hat" level as questionable sources in "Media Fact check"

    You people are really of the school "I heard it on the Internet, it must be true" Right?

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    Well it would certainly account for this sudden resurgence of neurotic anti-Russia hysteria - it's to take our minds off what radical Islam has in store for us in the very near future. Think 'schools today, madrassas tomorrow'?
     
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    Everybody who's familiar with "voiceofeurope" is well aware that this is a highly unreliable source that's not even remotely interested in neutral facts.
     
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    Without question Voice of Europe is not a credible source but it seems to be MGB's favourite one. Again and again he posts stuff from there which has been going the rounds of conspiracy theorists and Muslim haters for years and as such has no place in Latest News - not even Latest fake news.

    Media Check again:
    Bias: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Anti-Islam
     
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    Because of that snippet created by the Dutch, and accepted by the Dutch, I have no benevolence for them:

    “In the Netherlands self-defence is not regarded as a valid argument for owning a gun, and only the police are allowed to carry a weapon.”
     
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    Thanks for your genuine response.
     
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    LOLOLOL.. Thanks. :applause:
     
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    There are problems in Canada as well. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/25/...n-schools-tests-canadas-multiculturalism.html
     
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    And they think we're crazy because we realize that having 20 or 30 of our schoolchildren shot dead occasionally along with 10000 others annually is not a small price to pay for our FFRREEDDOOMM. Go figure
     
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    And don't forget the ones in TENNESSEE. They started the whole thing in 2011, according to Snopes.

    Why don't you just get a picture of an Arab cooking show, interpose a schoolchild's portrait, and publish your incontrovertible evidence that Muslims are eating our children? It's about the same thing.
     
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    I think you got that wrong on me, mate. I'm all for removing all gun bans effective immediately. Allowing bump stocks, AND automatic carbines for civilians. Hi-capacity magazines too.
     
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    Tell me ... how much money do you get for it if you spread such a total hate and lying bullshit?

    If you were Pinocchio, your nose would still have left our Galaxy!
     
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    The source isn't credible, but it's pretty sure at least one school abused children by forcing them to pray the muslim way. Even if it happened only one time, it's pure and simple abuse, and it would be true for every religion.
     
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    Ehm ... it's not possible because religious freedom prevails in all schools ... unless they call themselves a Catholic elementary school ... or something like that.

    And do you seriously believe that this would not affect the parents, apart from the fact that it would be an offense what is claimed here?
     
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    So forcing children to go on a field trip and making them aware that different people in the world do some things in different ways is now abuse? Funny, that used to be called education.
     
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    Maybe it is already abusing for some when you visit a mosque with children as part of the education to see the faith of others ...
     
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    There is a whole difference between showing them how to pray or making them pray. That's a huge difference. Furthermore, I tend to consider that religious education should be parents matter, not state matter. The state has no legitimity to say "your children should learn about this or that religion in this way". That's just indoctrination.
     
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    I think it's borderline, because it's by the way propaganda enforced by school, but it's stay tolerable. Forcing the children to pray however is something else. It would be problematic for any religion to force children to pray the way of this religion, forcing children to pray is a problem in a general way. It's even more problematic with Islam considering that some muslim countries the fact to be a former muslim by death.
     
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    I see no evidence that any child was forced to pray. They may have been told that muslims pray like this and been told to get into that position to make sure they understood the rigor but no one was told they had to pray once there. Also, it's not indoctrination to let your children know there are different religions in the world, again, that's just education
     
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    So ...
    I have informed myself about various sources about the whole thing .... the whole thing is just hot Nazi propaganda air without a spark of truth! Nobody forced children to pray here.
    They were only shown how Muslims pray to show the difference to Christians and they did that ... nothing but a practical exercise without religious compulsion.
    But then of course the right wing low brainer come here and then claim such a bullshit ...

    I do not see anything borderline about visiting a school class in a mosque ... at least no more borderline than going to a church or in a temple of whatever religion.
     

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