Every dollar American corporates and globalist elites make from China will be repaid by

the blood of American soldiers and civilians.

Because China will use the trade-surplus dollars, technology, and investment from America to build up their political and military power and threaten the world with their model and system. Finally America has to battle it out with this empowered and emboldened monster and save the world from enslavement, degradation and depravity.

So as a matter of fact, American corporates and globalist elites have been cashing in on the future blood of ordinary Ameircans. Appallingly immoral.

 

So how do we fix it?

 

Trump is working on it..

 

How many wars has China been in since the end of WW2???And how many has the USA been in?

 

In Korea, ChiComs killed over 50K American soldiers. A whole American regiment was slaughtered at Chosin Reservoir and the regiment banner was taken and is still exhibited in their museum.

In Vietnam, they sent countless officers and weapons to help Vietnamese Communists kill Americans.

Today they are sponsering rogue nations and terror organizations like NK, Iran and the Taliban who are actually or potentially at war with America.

Besides, why does China have to have previous wars with America to seek hegemony and domination over the world?
Will America just let them and do nothing?
Can the leader of the free world and a rich, powerful and ambitious communist regime co-exist?

I don't understand why there are so many China lovers in America.

 

Most Americans would have problems pointing to China on a geographical map. The reason there appear to be so many China lovers is because of Trump's trade war with China. It's one of those enemy of my enemy is my friend thing.

Trump's really good at using that to his advantage. If Trump came out against the holocaust, democrats would trip over themselves coming out in support of it.

 

how many wars, let me see, besides korea, they invaded Tibet, Invaded North Vietnam. Invaded Burma, fought tibet again, war with India, Invaded Cambodia, never mind sonflicts with taiwan.

 

I dislike Trump with a passion, but his public statements on China ring true. Him calling them a enemy was wrong, but he is correct in treating them as an adversary, something Clinton, Bush and Obama failed to do in order to court corporate interest.

 

China don't need a war to defeat the USA as they already defeated you. They own you by all the money you have in debt, you're already transfering to them most of your technology and they have already won their influence on Africa. Why would they start a war they have already won ? Why would you defeat an ennemy you already dominate ?
Chinese war strategy was widely defined in the 90's with the book called "unrestricted warfare" by Qiao Liang and Wang Xangsui. Chinese don't define a war at the traditionnal sense, for them a war is beyond guns, missiles, it's also economic. Fighting a war with men in uniforms belong to the past. I don't says that kind of war don't happen or won't happen again, but it's not the main part of war now.
For instance, the USSR was defeated by the USA on a long term economic/diplomatic course.

I suppose that China wait for the USA to know the same fate as the USSR.

 

Whataboutism is meaningless here.

 

You can't fix an opinion.

 

China is actually censoring speeches and practices of American companies and individuals in the US.
It's so obvious that even South Park is sounding the alarm.
Is it still an opinion?
Isn't the threat existential enough?

 

He equates globalist business with the blood of military. That is an opinion. What is a fact is that China is a bad actor. We should stop doing business with them, bring our businesses home and encourage Americans not to travel there. But, of course, that is an opinion as well.

 

GENERAL MOTORS has sold more cars in China than they have in the USA for the past few years.Cutting that market off will lead to a much smaller GM.Caterpillar and Deere also have big sales in China as does our largest dollar volume exporter Boeing.Cutting ties with China will result in huge loss of employment in the USA.Not to speak of our farmers who have already suffered severe loss of income from losing China market made up for by taxpayer welfare to farmers.

 

I think we need to stop doing anything with China. That is my opinion. But we aren't going to do that so your opinion is also an opinion. China intends to rule the world and we are helping them achieve the goal. We are hurting ourselves. Another opinion.

 

When you owe $Millions, the Lender owns you.
When you owe $Trillions, YOU own the lender.

CHINA SYNDROME: Zantac OTC recalled over cancer-causing chemical.

They can't be trusted, the less business we do with them, the better.

 

Umm... you do realize, I'm sure, that those GM cars you want to see being sold in China won't be affected because they're made in China. The same is true of cat and john deere.

I'm not sure about boeing, but don't they build jets? They would be purchased from boeing in the US and then the chinese can fly them home if they want.

 

You're partly right, but you don't just own money to china, they do most objects you use.

You would agree then that the USA has more interest in a war with China as they could get ridd off a lender, when China has more interest in you paying back the debt rather than be destroyed.

A war with China would be a disaster for both, I'm not the biggest expert on the economical relationship between both of your country, but the USA seems more dependant of China than the opposite.

 

Well, in some senses that we are trying to remedy, but, there are a number of 3rd world suppliers to choose from, where there really is no other developed first world consumer market like the US, the EU, but they already have that business.

The proof really is in all the Tariff income Trump has raised. We lagged the world in charging for access to our market, Trump started charging the countries that supply us and they simply paid the bill.



That spike to the right? That's all Trump's work. And that's metriced in $Billions, all he is doing is now charging for what we used to give away for free, and the folks that sell just paid it. That indicates to me that we are a very desireable and profitable market for them. Clearly they were making enough on their business to cover these tariffs the whole time, we were just giving it away.

 

Isn’t this a smart thing for them and their leadership to do?
If we were in their position.... wouldn’t we be proud to be able to do the same thing?
Truthfully, I think you are a wee bit jealous that they have played their hand better than we have.
That is a bitter pill to swallow for those that think our success has been due to American exceptionalism

I think that if it were possible to do a world wide poll.... we would find more people feeling threatened by the USA than China. China is not throwing their weight around like a drunken bully. China is not projecting its military might around the world. China is not imposing sanctions on anyone. China is not Proposing that anyone else embrace their political and economic systems,

We certainly have to recognize the threat. When I look at China I remember a famous quote by a communist leader: “capitalists will sell you the rope in order to hang them”. like a cunning drug pusher... the Chinese have been selling and selling and selling. And like a rich drug addict... we have been buying and buying and buying.

No one forced us into this predicament.... we eagerly sold our patrimony, bit by bit, because our citizens enjoyed their inexpensive products... and our corporations saw a good profit to be made.

The Chinese played a long game. we will work hard making you lots of affordable products. Eventually we will have your productive capacity and your money. Then you will be irrelevant without firing a shot.

wallmart sells their products
But we all buy their products

if globalism results in less expensive products on the shelves... Americans are all for it
i mean, isn’t that the fundamental underpinning of our capitalist system....
Producers compete for markets, and consumers decide the winners by what they buy
There is nothing about patriotism in that model
The economic model worked as it was designed to work
We just never considered the possibility that there were any other factors to consider
As long as Wall Street was happy, and main street was happy... that was good enough

let’s admit that we assumed this game would result in us being the winner by default
We believed American exceptionalism was real and automatic
We balked at the idea of having a long term plan
We Thought it was an unnecessary and counterproductive burden on the free market
Central economic planning was a communist idea... and we weren’t having it
Except now it turns out that a country with a long term plan is beating us at our own game
They are doing it by having a plan
And as long as our only plan is to let free markets create our plans
We will keep losing... and keep blaming others because we cannot accept the idea that a team with a plan will almost always beat a team with no plan