Everything you wanted to know about the 9/11 official conspiracy theory in 5 minutes.

well said,bravo.funny how they still cant produce any films of the jet coming in when you ask them to.lol. yep thats where he professes his information from,the "official" liars as the truth.lol well pretty much everybody that debates him finds out in a split second he has no credibility.

 

Unless you were there collecting evidence with the FBI and other the feds, YOU NEVER looked at the evidence.

If there is any cherry pickin going on it is you Ozians, you only pick government BS cherries.

The independent research you all support, is based on US government BS

So you having nothing to support your position, except government BS.

The day you Ozians actually look at the evidence is the day you use your brain up and learn the truth you're pretending to be looking for.

 

Have truthers looked at the evidence?

Were truthers there collecting evidence with the FBI and other Feds?

Oh, I guess not.

Your ridiculous point not withstanding, why is it that you summarily reject ALL evidence collected by an agency of a county, state, or federal government yet you seem to accept as gospel "evidence" from truther kook sites that contradict each other?

Is there one particular site that is your "go to" source for evidence?

Note I said evidence, not opinion or innuendo.

 

Ah, silly truthers pretending that the only evidence is what is collected by the FBI. Can you refute the evidence presented by the FBI? Paranoid delusions and a deep seeded hatred towards the US is NOT a valid refutation of the evidence. You do know that, right?

So what evidence am I ignoring? People (you) who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at people who live in brick houses.

Wrong yet again. Still having a very hard time getting anything right I see.

Wrong yet again. A VERY hard time.....

So present your evidence. Remember, truthtard opinion is NOT evidence.

 

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Lots of it classified, remove the blanket of secrecy and I have no doubt ivory towers will tumble.

Everything outside of the "official" government BS report

It's obvious I'm not in a glass house...I'm still here.

Your brick house hasn't kept you from takin a lickin. And we know this happening because of all the whining

Nope

Nope

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And neither is the heavily censored government BS reports.

 

So before you can't believe the evidence collected by the FBI because it was collected by the FBI. NOW you're trying to pretend all the "good" evidence is classified and THAT stuff you would believe. Do you need any other evidence of your own hypocricy and double standards when it comes to evidence? If the evidence fits your theory du jour, you're all over it. If it doesn't, you dismiss it not based on evidence that the evidence is bad but because YOU don't like it. And you call US whiners?

Really? Why is it you can't actually demonstrate evidence I am ignoring? Anyone else notice 10aces has to deal in generalities instead of specifics because once again he is lying his ass off instead of being honest?

Stupidity or delusions can keep people around when they should have left. You actually think you're "winning". You and the rest of the truthers are "winning" the same way Charlie Sheen was "winning" as he was psychotically ranting in a self destructive tirade.

And here we see not only the delusional belief that we've "takin a lickin" and that we are the ones whining. Who are the ones whining about debunkers being government shills because they can't defend their own bull(*)(*)(*)(*) theories? We have no reasons to whine because you truthers have been unable to defend your theories and generally resort to outright lies and deception to try and prove your point.

You're not wrong? Wow. You should have known better than to try and lie your way out of this one. It is your claim that "All independant research is based on US Government BS." Study by the University of Edinburgh showing the towers could have collapsed from the fires alone. It isn't based on the NIST study or anything else produced by the US. Now that you've been proven wrong, I am sure you'll run away like always.

Read above. When you base your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims on lies, how can you expect those conclusions to be right? Oh right. You're still hoping all the readers are brain dead and don't recognize your blatant lies for what they are.

Here are a bunch of examples of non government evidence we use to support our claims that you will run away from because you can't refute them and it proves you've knowingly lied.

The FACT fire fighters knew and reported HOURS before the collapse of WTC 7 that it was going to collapse due to fire.
The FACT numerous eyewitnesses saw Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.
The FACT numerous eyewitnesses saw Flight 93 crash in Shanksville
The FACT numerous people dealt with the terrorists prior to and on 9/11.

I can go on and on, but what's the point? All I had to do is state one piece of non-government evidence to prove you've lied once again.

WAY TO PRESENT YOUR EVIDENCE! Thank you for acknowledging you have NOTHING but opinion to back up your bull(*)(*)(*)(*). BTW, the government evidence IS evidence no matter what pathetic truthers say. It is your OPINION it is not evidence, but you can't even begin to refute it. Are we suppose to rely on your credibility and honesty to just believe you're telling the truth THIS time? Not bloody likely! You lie on a regular basis and have lied several times in your last post as I have demonstrated. Maybe you should work on being honest and building credibility, but then you would be a debunker by default.

 

You are so hung up on the fact that no one here but you has viable evidence. Why don't you make me a list of your evidence that backs your opinion?

 

Where have I said I am the only one with viable evidence? I am always asking to see the truther evidence. All I get is a bunch of opinion which is NOT evidence.

It is a rather large order to give you ALL of the evidence. I ask it all the time from the truthers, but I just ask for one piece of hard evidence. To date they have failed to give one good piece of evidence that isn't just opinion dressed up like evidence.

Do you have a specific aspect of 9/11 that you would like backed up by evidence?

How about one really good piece.

How about the fact Osama bin Laden and other members of Al Qaeda have repeatedly claimed to be responsible for 9/11 and continue to claim responsibility? Not only have they claimed responsibility, but they gave us video "wills" of several of the hijackers to be played back. Now how does a sworn enemy of the United States just let itself be used and abused by the United States? Because of Al Qaeda taking the blame, the US invaded Afghanistan and overthrew the government there that was both strict Muslim and sympathetic to terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda. Because of Al Qaeda taking the blame, Osama and most of the upper level members of Al Qaeda have been hunted down and killed. The remaining members are still being hunted.

Do you have evidence that refutes these facts?

Here is another fact truthers run away from. There is so much evidence against Al Qaeda that it was enough to convict Al Qaeda member Zacharias Moussaoui to life in prison without parole. Both prosecution and defense exhibits are available for you to look through.

So there you have it. Evidence the official story is true. Now you'll have people like 10aces and 911 was an inside job along here shortly claiming all the evidence is fake etc. etc. but they have no evidence it is fake. Just their opinion. See what I mean?

You and I have already gone back and forth several times over issues. Did I ever lie? Did I ever fail to back up my claims? I am not real sure why you now wish to rally behind the truthers and pretend their (*)(*)(*)(*) doesn't stink and I haven't produced any evidence. Care to let us in on your reasons why?

 

It's not hard to see if you look at his posting history. Unlike most people registered who comment on a variety of topics, this thread seems to be the only reason the guy registered. don't have an aneurism over his facade...he's not worth it.

 

Can I ask you what your opinion of the USA is?

 

What does that have to do with anything? Do my feelings change the evidence? Does it make anything to do with 9/11 more or less true? I love the USA. I don't like the government.

Rather than just constantly asking questions, why not respond to the answers you get?

 

You start by looking at the evidence. Not the opinions. The cherry picked evidence that supports the most likely conclusions. ALL the evidence. The day you crapologists actually look at the evidence is the day you grow up and accept the truth you're pretending not to see.

 

Oh look! The same childish truther is here repeating what I say in an attempt to mock others! Who would have thunk such a thing was possible! The funny thing is this is what most truthers have been reduced to; annoying posts with no merit and nothing but childish temper tantrums. Keep it up 7! I am sure these childish antics of yours are just doing WONDERS for your credibility!

 

You cannot prove the lie of planes in NY, which is why you blindly accept that there was supposed to be planes, but not a single image can be proven to be a real boeing. The images are all fake, every single of the them, laughable fakes without much scrutiny at all.

 

I think this is what I am having the most problem with:
why is 7forever using videos of a plane flying into a building to prove a plane didn't fly into a building?

 

WB11 chopper and wnbc drone. Zoom on a distant object leaves no doubt about what that object is, if the cam can get close enough. The orb is smaller than the chopper and notice how very close to the north tower it gets. That debunks the disinfo about it being southwest. It was directly right of the towers and had to circle T2. That is looney tunes.

 

Except hundreds of thousands of people SAW Flight 175 hit the South Tower. Not video. No tricks. Live. So how many of those said ANYTHING about some orbiting globe hitting from the west? NONE. All you have is a bunch of pixelated video that you pretend shows something. Is it substantiated by the evidence? No. They found plenty of parts from Boeing jets. Did they find any "orb" parts? No. You had people who survived the impact to the south tower that says they saw plane parts. How do you explain those?

So I can believe someone's baseless and retarded opinion or I can believe the facts. Hmmm. Boy that is a hard call to make.

 

Nobody saw a plane on the ground. They saw a drone and called it a small plane plane or remote controlled drone, like Dick Oliver. That's consistent with the drone footage shown in 4 broadcasts. You are baseless, and complete defeated. No planes for either tower happened.

 

See, and it is claims like this that expose your paranoia for what it is. Nobody saw the plane? Really?

So we're suppose to ignore all the evidence and just blindly believe some nut who is the ONLY one claiming some OTHER object came in and hit the tower from the west? Are we to believe some guy who doesn't even understand how things look in 3D vs. a flat picture over every other expert on planes who would have said "wait.... that isn't a 767"? I don't think so.

Pretend you've "won" all you want. You pretending you're winning when you can't even defend your own claims reminds me of Charlie Sheen as he hit rock bottom while still pretending he was winning.

 

Do you think your thumb is bigger than the moon?

 

4 broadcasts showed the orb, three of which were aired live. You are silly. Plenty of witnesses said something circled around which was the drone, because fake 175 cirlced nothing.

The final 14 seconds of approach by nist was south to north, not west to east. The drone/orb cannot visually be a chopper or plane and its float path would have crashed into the west side of T2, not southeast corner. The drone literally circled the towers just like Matt Lauer said after he saw it.

 

I'm not defending anything but simply showed no plane was in three live broadcasts. You aren't defending or proving the plane myth because it's a lie. You simple assumed they were real because you saw them on TV, as if everything is real on TV. That's how idiotic the plane myth is.

 

NO broadcasts showed an 'orb', NONE,,,It's just you making things up based on fuzyy, out of focus grainy images
NO 767 circled around anything, and your inability to tell direction doesn't change that fact....
A REAL pair of 767's hit the towers in front of thousands of witnesses working in the surrounding buildings,and was caught on numerous personal cameras

 

You are entirely off your rocker. The witnesses you refer to, do not corroborate three live broadcasts that show a ball. Video beats your fantasy witnesses. No plane for either tower because no real plane was captured by film or video...Zero.

 

NO broadcasts showed a plane', NONE,,,It's just you making things up based on fuzyy, out of focus grainy images
NO 767 circled around anything, and your inability to tell direction doesn't change that fact. A drone circled the building and that is confirmed by 4 broadcasts and eyewitnesses saying something circled, a drone.