evidence of "no-planes"

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  1. holston

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    So you buy into the "left, right", Democrat vs Republican show.

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    There are many people who have genuine political ideals who do not seem to realize how easily labels and appearances can be, and are, used to deceive people.

    For example a "blue dog Democrat" might find it unimaginable that anyone running for or holding office could actually be taking the name of "Democrat" in vain.

    This is what you get when people make a religion out of a political party.

    JUDAISM, essentially a SOCIO-POLITICAL entity with religious roots, is a case in point.


    You may take issue with this contention, but I would bet that you have no problem at all in accepting the same idea as it is applied to Islam (bent on world domination) or "Christian fundamentalist" (potential 'right wing' terrorist organization and harbinger of all "anti-semitism").

    If you are thoroughly honest with yourself, you may want to ask yourself why this is so.

    Or you may already know and simply refuse to admit it.
     
  2. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    I said...he didn't SAY that..You just see what you WANT to see.
     
  3. holston

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    Like I said, choose any euphemism you wish. I will not refuse to acknowledge what I DO SEE simply because you would prefer that I didn't.

    Freeh admits that the 9/11 Commission "ignored" Able Danger.

    "I can't think of a more relevant fact....." (He says it twice.) ....of how information about Atta was blocked.


    Watch how this Jew skirts the main implications of this during this interview with Freeh.

    The spin is roughly the "incompetence one", transforming the issue into one of casting blame between the CIA and

    [video=youtube;UU2A3kQouxM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU2A3kQouxM[/video]

    He's a real comedian, making it sound as though they would have done better using Google.
    The Jew also calls concern over privacy "nuts". I'm sure you would agree except where your own goes.

    Freeh keeps referring back to the "oversight" despite Slippery Sam who obviously wants to call it a "screw up" rather than suggest what it really was, part of a concerted COVER-UP.
     
  4. holston

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    [video=youtube;X1t5anm6Uyo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1t5anm6Uyo[/video]
     
  5. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Like I said........
     
  6. holston

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    Like I said, the information obtained from Able Danger was COVERED UP.

    So was the testimonies of many others who contradicted the Kosher white wash.

    The physical evidence was intentionally destroyed before it could be properly examined.
    I call this a COVER UP. You can quibble about the wording. I call it lying.


    Unbelievers should watch at least the 1st ten or fifteen minutes of the film.



    [video]http://www.informationclearinghouse.i nfo/article31079.htm[/video]
     
  7. n0spam

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    is to look at the alleged "FLT175" crash into the south wall of the south tower,
    Conservation of Momentum anyone? The video of this alleged airliner crash
    is so completely bogus, and yet people use it to support the idea that hijacked
    airliners were used as weapons....... what a CROCK!
     
  8. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    No,not even.

    Try again
     
  9. cjnewson88

    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Am I to expect this evidence of no planes any time soon?
     
  10. Gamolon

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    Care to discuss your "understanding" of the law of momentum conservation and how it can be used to determine the outcome of a collision between two objects, each constructed of multiple components?

    Please describe what YOU think should have happened and use some numbers to back up your claim?

    I bet you balk at this question.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    "Buy into" ?!

    Are you trying to pretend it doesn't exist ?

    Good luck.
     
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    This does NOT require pages of numbers to prove
    note that on examination of the video, the alleged aircraft
    shows NO slowing down even after the wings have contacted the wall,
    & also note that according to the official explanation, the port side wing
    would have contacted the wall before the starboard side wing causing
    huge unbalanced forces upon the aircraft, why didn't the aircraft break-up
    upon attempt to penetrate the wall, also we have the highly improbable occurrence
    of a total 4 aircraft crashes where the aircraft is completely destroyed, not a tail,
    stabilizer, or control surface to be found in the gashes in the sides of the WTC towers,
    & nothing to prove conclusively that an airliner had crashed at the Pentagon or Shanksville.
    Where is your accounting for aircraft bits that proves conclusively that "FLT11", "FLT175"
    "FLT77", or "FLT93" ever existed at all?

    The mainstream media was the first to assert that airliners were used as weapons
    and so the burden of proof is on them and they have NOT proved their case!
     
  14. holston

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    Oh, they exist alright, just not independently of Zionist control.

    The two party political system in the US has been transformed into a one party political farce by the wealthy elitists, over half of whom belong to the Jewish SOCIO-POLITICAL UNION.


    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/03/commentary-says-amount-of-us-political-money-coming-from-jews-is-staggering.html




    http://www.hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/FromOthers/list-of-neocons-for-Iraq-war.htm

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/10/neocons-and-the-incredible-jewish-ethnic-infrastructure/
    The Jews invented the Neo-Cons who now control the Republican party.

    The Jews have traditionally been leftists and now control the Democratic party.



    What does that leave?

    Now you can deny that THEY exist.
     
  15. holston

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    The "no planes" theory is merely an invention of disinformation agents to discredit the "Truth Movement".

    Entertaining this farce serves merely to divert attention away from the abundant evidence of FOREKNOWLEDGE and COVER UP.


    This "Truth Movement" is not a single entity by the way since there are a variety of opinions and theories as to exactly who was responsible for facilitating the attacks and how they were carried out.

    The "Official" Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth has been hijacked by Jews just like the Tea Party was.

    There can be no organized grass roots movement of any kind which will not be infiltrated and then steered by Zionists/Jews until the fact that they are doing so is realized and deliberate steps are taken to either block their entrance or neutralize their ability to manipulate or steer the process.
     
  16. Gamolon

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    So if I pound a 3 1/2" nail 1/2" into the wood 2x4 of a house wall and then hit said nail with a sledge hammer with all my might from the top, you would visibly detect the sledgehammer slowing down? This is where math and calculations are needed, not just simple logic. How much of a difference was there between the local stress/load capacity of the area of the perimeter columns versus the load generated by the 767. Do you understand that there comes a point where the load generated by an object will overcome the resistance of an object/structure it impacts by so much that the slowing down/resistance is virtually non-exsitent?

    That's why you need math.

    Also, once the plane sheared the perimeter columns, what was next to stop the rest of the plane?

    Again I'll ask you because you failed to make your point OR address my question above. How does the law of momentum conservation apply to one complex structure/object impacting another complex structure/object? What characteristics are you using to base your claimed outcome? Are you saying that the mass of the entire building versus the mass of the plane would be your argument? How are you applying the law? You are avoiding the discussion.

    What roll does probability have to do with the law of momentum conservation?
     
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    Then what's the nonsense about "buying into" ?
     
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    huh?

    what does stress have to do with whether or not there were planes? trying to redirect the topic again?
     
  19. holston

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    That's an expression. Roughly translated you might say it meant "believe in" or "accept as genuine".

    The Jewish SOCIO-POLITICAL UNION dominates both wings of the US political spectrum.
    Since ALL Jews work to promote Jewish interests above all, they act as a single entity.

    http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/

    Not all Jewish organizations are so overt about their objectives. For example, Muslim organizations have been accused of not being what they purport to be. Glen Beck, an sychophant to Jews provides an illustration of this:
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/07/09/is-muslim-zakat-charity-actually-a-front-for-jihad/

    If anyone were to suggest that any Jewish organization was other than what it claimed to be, they would be attacked as "anti-semitic", as are all critics of Judaism, Israel, or any of their many political and social organizations.

    A US Senator once made a move to have the B'nai B'rith registered as a foreign agent. This move was defeated of course.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act_of_1938
    http://fedupusa.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/bnai-brith-international/



    It is in their interest that this fact not become common knowledge, otherwise people would people might demand a change. Furthermore, if the general public was aware of how much they are manipulated by propaganda disseminated via TV, radio, movies, magazines, etc it would be less effective.

    One needs to realize who controls these forms of media in order to understand how the information is filtered and tailored to promote social and political agendas. In other words, it is those who control these interests who may determine which items reach the masses and how they are packaged. Advertising works on the same principle and if it was not effective then those who sponsor it would not pay big money for it.


    The realization that both parties of our "two party" system are essentially controlled by the same interests who are promoting their own agendas would undermine the illusion of choice that voters believe they have.

    If the masses could see behind the curtain to who is pulling all the strings, they could not be so easily manipulated and conned.


    http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/buy-into
     
  20. Gamolon

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    Do you even read what other people post in these threads? Let me help you. n0spam posted this:

    The title of this thread being "evidence of "no-planes" and n0spam saying the above in response to that title means he thinks there were no planes because what was seen in the videos, he thinks is impossible. This is due to the way he (incorrectly) applies the conservation of momentum to the impact of one complex object by another complex object. He thinks there were no planes because what the videos show is NOT the way he thinks it should look because of the way he applies the law to complex objects.

    Get it now?
     
  21. Kokomojojo

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    or they are scare to go against the propaganda mob
     
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    Now days it is easy to manipulate and doctor photographs and films, although the application of these methods is not needed given the power of mass communications media to influence public perception.

    The problems that would have to be surmounted in order to create a holographic image which could deceive thousands of eye witnesses would be prohibitive.

    It would be far easier just to use real planes, which is what they did.

    Dispelling the ridiculous myths about 9/11 that have been generated by disinformation agents in order to discredit the movement for 9/11 truth, in no way detracts from the volume of factual and verifiable information which confirms FOREKNOWLEDGE, CONSPIRACY to OBSTRUCT JUSTICE, and CONSPIRACY to COMMIT MURDER (controlled demolitions) ................

    beyond a reasonable doubt!

    Any fool can see the seriousness of these charges and therefore understand why those who were associated with any part of the scheme would use all their available resources to conceal the truth about 9/11.
     
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    With all due respect, as I said earlier I am loathe to question your sincerity. But I AM going against the "propaganda mob".

    Controlled demolitions WERE used to bring down the towers.

    There may or may not have been a plane which struck the Pentagon. I don't know,but there are good reasons to doubt it was a regular passenger plane.

    Look this over:

    http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/disinfo.html

    Lie: "What were seen as planes that hit the WTC were actually holograms."



    The avionics needed to guide a plane remotely are already in the hands of the Zionists as well as planes themselves. The means to seize remote control of a passenger plane are available at any rate.

    The sighting of a plane outfitted with the gear necessary to do either of these actions was also spotted in flight on 9/11 although I can't recall where or by whom. I'll look it up.
     
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    reality.




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    what about this one?

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    A thread full of no planers who are not presenting evidence, even though the thread title clearly states they will be.

    As for the jew hater, maybe you can go start your own thread instead of trying to hijack this train wreck.
     

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