evidence of "no-planes"

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  1. n0spam

    n0spam New Member

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    You really couldn't be that ill-informed,
    there are serial numbered parts that identify the specific aircraft by its registration #
    so that it could be identified as "FLT11" or "FLT175" ( etc ... )
    did YOU know that there are specific serial numbered parts to your car that can
    be traced, such that if some crooks were stealing cars and parting them out
    the parts can be traced and provide evidence to bust the crooks?
    Serial numbered parts are essential to accountability and tracking of critical systems.

    Please note that ALL pix to be entered into evidence MUST have a known origin.
    Not just a random pix but DOCUMENTED as to who took the pix, and when & where.
    This is one of the reasons why 9/11/2001 was the most poorly documented disaster
    since the invention of photography.
     
  2. cjnewson88

    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    So let me get this right, your only claim to "evidence of no planes" is to claim that there is no evidence to prove there were planes?

    So in effect, you have no evidence there were no planes?
     
  3. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    there are only parts numbers on the parts,not the planes serial numbers


    And there are MORE cars than planes,and they are easier to steal,THAT'S why there are VIN numbers in several places on the car.

    NOT on the parts that would make the thieves the most money...

    Honestly,do you live in the real world?
     
  4. n0spam

    n0spam New Member

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    So you assert that the JET ENGINES & LANDING GEAR & other critical parts
    do NOT have unique serial numbers on commercial aircraft? is that what you think?
     
  5. holston

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    Brilliant way to dismiss something that you really don't want to
    examine too closely because if you did, you may see that its
    TRUE, that is there were NO airliners hijacked on 9/11/2001
     
  7. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Yes,in fact,there WERE.
     
  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    no its a thread full of planers that cant tell the difference between a BLOB if (*)(*)(*)(*) and a plane.

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  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    best thing to do is buy a copy of some movies editing software and see exactly what it can and cant do.

    Hollywood makes it look much more real than these compositraitors do.
     
  10. cjnewson88

    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    and by the way, I've provided you with a few options for evidence of no planes, such as some leaked document, audio, video.. heck, find me one or two amateur videos of the South Tower impact which does not show any aircraft impact at all. Just an amateur video of the building exploding and no plane at all. Dozens of people filmed this, you obviously think they are all fake. So find me the real ones.
     
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    Oh I don't doubt the ability of Hollywood and the Jewish prestidigitators to fabricate all kinds of illusions.

    I'm just saying that the planes were no illusion. The illusion was that the planes were responsible for the total collapse of WTC bldgs 1, 2, and 7.

    As I pointed out earlier, one would have to go to extraordinary lengths to create holograms that could fool the eyes of thousands of witnesses IF it could be done at all.

    It would be much easier and much more convincing to just use the planes and remote control devices they already possessed.

    Your time would be better spent showing the corroborating evidence of FOREKNOWLEDGE, OBSTRUCTION of JUSTICE, and CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS rather than trying to convince people of something they would not believe even if it was true.

    Dwelling on the "no planes" theory just helps to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement and diverts attention away from the more damning evidence which is easy to show.

    Is that what you want to do?

    Yes, I know that they will simply deny all manner of evidence. So what? We conclude that Hasbarats are liars.
    What's new about that?
    Anyone who has ever dealt with them knows they always fall back on the plain ol' lie when they have nothing else.

    Their whole story hinges on a lie. So anyone who knows enough can eventually force this to the surface if they have enough credible evidence to begin with.
    Quibbling with them is a waste of time as far as changing their position. That's what they want you to do.

    The only people you should be seeking to convince are those who don't know already. The Hasbarats DO know already. That's why they have to lie. They just want to prevent as many people as they can from learning the truth and make the rest doubt their own senses.

    I am speaking to you as I would one who sincerely believed the "no planes" nonsense.
    FOREKNOWLEDGE and CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS are not nonsense. They spread as much nonsense as they can in order to hide the facts which confirm them.
     
  13. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    no no no, nothing that complicated.

    News reporters standing right under it did not see or hear a plane.

    When the reporters said there was no plane just an explosions the anchors immediately corrected them making them look stupid on air, and showed this fake crap to audiences world wide.

    Why do you think abc said we dont know where we got this clip from it was anonymously "given" to us!

    sure it was!

    and psychology testing proves

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    yeh their high resolution camera even gave us a vortex but couldnt keep the wings on the plane. HAHAHA loonacy at its best

    the videos bar none are ALL cgi!

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    and then there is that little matter of the 100,000.00 reward for a REAL plane video that no one has collected in 6 years! Thousands of witnesses and not one real video in new york of all places.

    [​IMG]
     
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    "As I pointed out earlier, one would have to go to extraordinary lengths to create holograms that could fool the eyes of thousands of witnesses IF it could be done at all. "

    I would like to ask, where are these thousands of people who laid eyes upon "FLT175" and positively identified it as a commercial airliner? Where are the witness statements in the record? WHO saw the aircraft?
    I'd really like to know.
     
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    I understand that it is easy enough to alter films and photos.

    I understand that witness testimonies are often faulty and unreliable.

    What we have here however are the eye witness testimonies of scores of hundreds of people who heard and saw the planes.

    One can take these witness testimonies and edit them to make people say things out of context and thus appear to mean something other than what they intended.

    The Jewish owned media does this sort of thing all the time in order to put the particular slant on things they want the public to get. Hundreds of examples of where they have done this could be provided.

    But this does nothing but divert attention away from the evidence that FOREKNOWLEDGE, CONSPIRACY, OBSTRUCTION of JUSTICE, and CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS are FACTS of 9/11 which have been demonstrated
    beyond reasonable doubt.


    The question of exactly what hit the Pentagon has not been conclusively resolved.
    The reason why is because the FBI and other agencies confiscated all the video and surveillance footage they could retrieve. And for "some" reason they do not want to allow anyone to view them.

    In THAT case, only ONE missile or aircraft struck, so no private citizen would have had their cam 'corders trained on the building.

    In the case of the WTC towers, only one film was made of the first crash. This has caused some people to speculate that those who shot the film knew in advance and thus were connected to the Cabal that planned it. I don't know. It doesn't matter. That kind of speculation also diverts attention away from FACTS which ARE KNOWN.

    By the time the second plane arrived, everyone in the vicinity had their gadgets pointed in the direction of the towers as well as their eyeballs. Their witness testimonies are recorded and all over the internet.

    You forget that it is ALL of THESE EYE WITNESS testimonies that DeBunkers are always ignoring or even denying exist!

    So in essence YOU ALSO are alleging that their testimonies are worthless. So whose side are you on?



    I repeat, the "no planes" idea is just one more concoction that disinformation agents have planted to create distractions, diversions, confusion, cast doubt, and otherwise bog down the attempts of those who realize the "inside job" aspect of 9/11 to get this knowledge to the public at large.

    Surely it has occurred to you why the only people who are supposed to be representing the movement to expose the truth about 9/11 are those who will be perceived by the public as "crack-pots". The rest have received limited air time, and THAT was only given to put these people on long enough to ridicule them on air and then cut them off before they had time to present their case.

    Otherwise, the only media venues which have been open to people who really have a handle on the truth about 9/11 and could PROVE IT, are those which people associate ridiculous sensationalism, for example the late night "Coast to Coast" program. These kinds of programs present the kinds of tabloid stories that appeal to the imagination of grown ups who still like to hear ghost stories and what not.

    I'm not saying that they never present any factual information. Indeed they do. Only it is so thoroughly mixed with nonsense, that most people will not be able to separate the fact from the fiction.

    The idea is to "hide the truth in plain sight". If they can make the job of sifting the chaff from the wheat difficult enough, then those who lack critical thinking skills or lack the time to exercise them will simply discard the truth with the nonsense and cast it all into the same heap.
    If this tactic is successful, then eventually it won't matter how much evidence is presented or how many people speak of it, it will be familiarly associated with discarded and worn out information.

    In other words people like Philip Zelikow will have substituted a myth of their own making in the place of the truth.
    They have changed a myth into the "truth" and the truth into a "myth".

    http://rense.com/general78/rapestory.htm


    The more convoluted and jumbled they can make the story, the harder it will be to translate succinctly to others who are unfamiliar with it. They realize that most people will not hold still long enough to listen to a long story and that even if they did, as few people would know how to tell it succinctly and include enough of the names, dates, and places to make their presentation convincing.


    The DeBunkers have depended on these "side tracks" in order to buy time. This happened with the Kennedy assassination. By the time the truth ever emerges from THAT COVER up, those who perpetrated the crime will be way past prosecuting.

    They stall until public interest wanes. The more time that passes, the more the distinct outlines of past events fade, the fuzzier people's memories get, and the less the important to current affairs the issue becomes.

    Everyone who indulges DeBunkers in these off the trail excursions are helping them to accomplish their mission, namely to let the TRUTH movement DIE a death by attrition and disinterest. Once this happens the Cabal that orchestrated it will be home free, or at least so they think.


    Ezekiel 9:9
    Then he said to me, “The guilt of the house of Israel and Judah is exceedingly great. The land is full of blood, and the city full of injustice. For they say, ‘The LORD has forsaken the land, and the LORD does not see.’




    You should understand the relevance of what happened on 9/11 to the descent into Socialist Totalitarianism that the US is experiencing today. Our ignorance and obstinacy is allowing us to slip slide into Sodom and Gomorrah while our Jewish masters are leading the parade.

    Do your eyes not SEE these Jews living high on "the hog"? Is there anywhere you can look that you don't see their faces and the results of their social engineering? What does that tell you about who is in charge?


    Zionist, Talmudic, Judaism has been like a CANCER on the face of the US which has been slowly growing for over one hundred years. It metastasized on 9/11.
     
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    They have been posted on this board,or at least enough to show people like you they identified them
     
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    Still no evidence?
     
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    Evidence of what? That CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS were used to bring down WTC bldgs 1,2, and 7?

    Evidence that there was FOREKNOWLEDGE of the attacks and a COVER UP?

    Oh, I can give you plenty of that.

    What I can't do is go along with a story contrived by disinformation agents to discredit the movement to disclose the TRUTH about the aforementioned items above.

    Maybe YOU could supply some evidence, that Osama Bin Laden had anything to do with the attacks and that ALL THREE WTC towers collapsed due to random damage of plane impacts and the indeterminate path of fire, ALL in a manner highly suggestive of a precisely determined process.

    You could also show us the PROOF of the identity of all the suspects and explain to us how none of this could have possibly have been planted.

    Prove to us that no one but those Arabs could have possibly had anything to do with the attacks and the results of them.
    Then I'll show you lots of perfectly good reasons to believe otherwise.
     
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    apparently not.

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    ...and this proves what? Oh, wait...that's right, it proves nothing.

    Let's see....Ass Baker get to determine what is "original, unmodified WTC plane impact video"...and he's the one paying out?....That's about as sincere as Kent Hovind's $100,000. evolution challenge.

    It's a fraud. Amazingly, you actually think it's an actual challenge!
     
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    Oh I thought it was obvious what it proves. I guess I have to explain even the most simple things to a certain group of people. See the money has been available since 2008, its now 2014, that means that after 7 years not so much as ONE of those millions and millions upon millions of people that you claimed seen a plane impact can proof it! All those witnesses and ZIPPO NADA!

    yup there is fraud in your post but is not the 100 grand LOL

    Its in the form of an ILC that is available for inspection. All nice and above board.

    Nice try to pull the wool over everyones eye with more dablunder site bull(*)(*)(*)(*) though
     
  22. Kokomojojo

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    Yes your honor, gimme a 20 foot stack of bibles, because I swear I saw plane and here are the photos to prove it!

    See that your honor the hijacker is waving and flipping us the bird.

    Judge: Son you are non compos mentis, get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of my court.
     
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    Too funny. YOU actually think Ass Baker would actually agree a film is valid? His challenge is a fraud because HE IS THE ONE who will be making the ruling. How convenient.

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    Sorry, thousands of eyewitnesse prove you're factually incorrect. You're just too dishonest to admit that.
     
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    koko only exists to me in quoted form. It kind of makes me laugh when he says no witnesses, and then link an image, take from a video, which has several witnesses, some of which who died that day. No planers are so thick. Still waiting on that evidence..
     
  25. Kokomojojo

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    why havent they claimed that nich chunk of change? thousands huh? Seems like not even one to me!

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    I dont know why you would laugh since you have not brought forward anyone credible. Planers seem believe anything. like government owned robots.
     

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