Evidence STILL severely lacking for Flight 93 mostly buried claim

OK, Mr. I-have-evidence-from-the-Shanks-volunteers-that-proves-the-buried-plane-claim-and-would-put-this-conpspiracy-theory-to-rest-once-and-for-all-but-I'm-not-going-to-show-anybody.

 

What additional conditions am I asking for?

I asked you:

And you said:

This is exactly the evidence I was asking for. I just didn't see that evidence on that video you posted and am simply asking you to provide the timestamp of the video that shows this evidence if it's on there.

So if the evidence the plane mostly buried is on that video you linked, please post the timestamp of where it is and if it does prove it, I'll live up to my end of the deal.

You can also get the said evidence from Hannibal. That would work too!

 

Where did I ever say that? Are you making stuff up again?

You have been given the source, you refuse to go to it. Predictable, and always good for a laugh.

 

Says anyone who knows how to conduct an investigation? Says the scientific method? Says the American legal system? Take your pick.

Well, you could complain about it on the internet, or you could actually try to contact them rather then pretend to contact them.

Because he and I both think you are dishonest, and only wish to exploit the memory of those he cared for. Frankly, I think the fact that you wanted him to post pictures of a child murdered on 9/11 to prove he knew her is disgusting, vile, and sociopathic.

I'm not here to explain your imaginary scenarios. I'm here to say that I think that you should prove your own statements before calling the FBI, witnesses, murder victims, family members and first responders a bunch of liars.

A normal rational person would contact the people who made the statements and ask for clarification.

 

Among other things, this.

We all know you won't accept it as proof. But I did provide evidence as you asked for here.

So, are you going to live up to your end of the deal and provide your evidence or are you going to continue being a lying coward?

 

Which part did you not say?

Pot, meet Kettle.

Likewise!

 

I think you have confused a lack of evidence is not evidence with a lack of evidence is not necessarily proof. I agree with the later statement.

Feel free to show us how to do it better if you don't think we did it well. You could simply ask Hannibal for them. I'm sure he'd give them to you, right?

Oh, now that's rich, especially saying he thinks someone's being dishonest!!! Pot, meet Kettle.

Ah, the good ol' skeptic tactic of trying to pull heart strings instead of actually debunking.

LoL, that is funny in so many ways. First, the photo of the girl victim is already plastered all over the internet, second, you seem to have no problem with your buddies making vile unsubstantiated accusations, and you are really making yourself look like an ass for not knowing the whole story -- kinda like with Flight 93!

I.E. you're too afraid to answer because you know I'm right about what I'm getting at. Don't be scared, Homie.

LoL, you should know who I'm calling what before you make yourself look like an ass ... again.

Oh the FBI was pretty clear about what they said.

 

Why do you guys keep lying about this? Lying doesn't help your credibility.

Timestamp on the video, please, or concede you there is no evidence most of the plane buried. Then I'll live up to my end of the deal.

 

It's called argument from ignorance, and I'm not the one confused about this.

I have no desire to attempt to prove your lame conclusion. You're on your own with this one.

Right because a picture of a murdered girl on the internet is the cold hard evidence that you a missing... You never cease to disgust.

I won't answer hypothetical questions because they are silly. You won't answer with any physical evidence of your claims because you have none. We all know which one of us is too afraid to answer questions.

The whole story is right here on the site for everyone to read.

 

Take the example of how some alleged rapes where thrown out of court because there was a lack of evidence and their stories didn't add up. Perfect example of most of Flight 93 supposedly burying. Lack of evidence, story doesn't add up!

If it's so lame, how come none of you skeptics have been able to debunk it? A "lame" conclusion should be the most easy to debunk!

And exactly what am I missing about that? I know she's been murdered. I trying to find out exactly by whom. And speaking of disgust, what would you think of someone claiming they were good friends of one of the 9/11 child victims, but lied about it? Would that disgust you? Would you still associate with that person? yes or no

No, you're afraid to. Just admit it.

Well that's kinda true, because the physical evidence is severely lacking!!! Kinda the whole point of this conspiracy theory.

Yeah, you are. You've skipped so many of my question. What do you think I'm too afraid to answer?

Yes indeed. Yes indeed it is!

 

But that's not what you are attempting here with this line of argument. You're trying to convict a rapist due to a lack of evidence. You're trying to claim that if there isn't enough evidence to support a claim, then that claim is a lie. It's a false dichotomy. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

 

What am I lying about? You're the one with the credibility problem.

Okay.
0:21 Pennsylvania State Police Commander Frank Monaco states that the impact crater is "20 feet wide and 15 feet deep".
0:33 to 0:50 Scenes of the impact site but very little debris visible above ground
1:23 Scenes of excavation
1:42 Scene of collected debris. Clearly more than was visible in the scenes from 0:33 to 0:50.

Since they excavated more debris than were visible above ground, most of Flight 93 were clearly buried.

Now, please provide your evidence for this claim . . .

Or do you need to move the goal posts a few more times to hide the fact that you have no evidence?

 

No I'm showing you how a lack of evidence can be used as evidence when refuting a claim. Whether refuting the claim that someone got raped when they really didn't or that most of a 757 buried when it really didn't, the lack of evidence was used to help prove the claims were false.

And where's all your evidence that the claim (most of 93 buried) is true?!


Btw, you gonna stop skipping my questions?...

"And exactly what am I missing about that? I know she's been murdered. I trying to find out exactly by whom. And speaking of disgust, what would you think of someone claiming they were good friends of one of the 9/11 child victims, but lied about it? Would that disgust you? Would you still associate with that person? yes or no"

Remember what you said:

Don't come across as a hypocrite!

 

Clarification: Are you saying that the debris in the trash container is what was excavated from the ground?

 

More conditions?

But you said . . .

Time to live up to your end of the deal.

 

Asking for clarification is more conditions?!? Doesn't sound like you are very confident about your evidence!

Soooo, Are you saying that the debris in the trash container is what was excavated from the ground?

I just want to make sure I understand your evidence correctly before we proceed.

 

Well, yes, given the fact that you stated . . .

I provided you with the timestamps on the video. Now it is time to live up to your end of the deal.

Doesn't sound like you have any intention of living up to your end of the deal. Stands to reason as I doubt you have the evidence you claim to have anyway.

Soooo . . . I'll give you another opportunity to display your integrity and character,

Please provide evidence for your claim . . .

I'm assuming you would not make these claims if you didn't know them to be true. Do you have any evidence or proof that that's what happened or are you just making it up?

If you are making it up and have no proof, just say so and we'll move on.

 

Soooo I can see where your "evidence" was in the video so I could analyze it. I hope that was self evident as to why I wanted the timestamps. Sheesh.

Now, are you saying that the debris in the trash container is what was excavated from the ground?

 

And I provided you with the timestamps as you requested.

Now it is time to live up to your end of the deal. You've had several opportunities now to show other forum members your integrity and character and you seem to be repeatedly choosing to NOT live up to your end of the deal.

Why is that? Could it be that you have no evidence to support your claim and never intended to honor the deal?

Let's hope not. For if that is the case, the only thing you have displayed thus far in this thread are the actions of a dishonest troll who can't be trusted.

So suede, are you a dishonest troll who can't be trusted, or are you going to live up to your end of the deal?

Your next post should tell us all we need to know in this respect.

 

The deal was show me evidence that most of the plane buried, or concede that claim is a lie, then I'll post my evidence to my post -- not show me something that's not evidence that most of the plane buried...

It first must be assessed that your evidence is really evidence for the OP and not evidence for something else.

So for the "evidence" you brought up, I need a QUICK clarification: Are you saying that the debris in the trash container is what was excavated from the ground?

The funny thing is the clarification I ask only requires you to type ONE of two words: "yes" or "no"

You've typed hundreds of words after I've simply asked for that small clarification!!!

Pretty funny people like you are accusing me a being a troll.

 

Gee and you wonder why your movement has never gotten anywhere.

 

It's like 'truthers' don't realize that we can see exactly what they wrote before.

Why can't 'truthers' tell the truth?

 

Bye Fangbeer, hope you had a nice time posting here.

Hey, that rhymed!

 

(Where's the Pot-called-the-Kettle-black emoticon?)

 

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Evidence STILL severely lacking for Flight 93 mostly buried claim