Evolution is a Religion - VIII

Evolution can be proven false or severely limited. Let's remember that evolution makes strong statements about what evidence will be found. If we find evidence that these strong predictions from evolution aren't true, it could easily prove that some mechanism other than evolution exists.

I point this out regularly. The point is that theory is the very best science has to offer in answering any qustion of how somthing works. There is nothing stronger. Theory is always considered refutable because humans don't know everything. Newton didn't know about relativistic speed, for example. So, he has a useful model, but his theory of gravitation has been proven wrong by Einstein.

Science does not claim to know the environment which produced the "big bang" or what is going on around us in whatever other "dimensions" might exist.

All these care cases where science says "I don't know" - because that is the scientific truth.

You do one other thing concerning the two theoris you mention - you ignore sciennce.

That's fine. Nobody is required to accept science.

In religion, belief is based on faith, not on evidence that could possibly be recognized by science as evidence.

Again, science doesn't offer "truth" - humans don't have the capacity to discover truth through science. However, science can present theory which people are encouraged to attempt to falsify. And, the theories you mention have lasted under assault for a long time. Guessing that they are wrong has to include the decision to ignore science.

 

DBM aka FDS:

I agree with that. Evolution is nothing more than a pipe dream, and it certainly did not pass the scientific method. The Scientific method requires the following:

1. systematic observation
2. measurement
3. experiment
4. formulation of hypotheses
5. testing of hypotheses
6. modification of hypotheses
https://www.britannica.com/science/scientific-method

Evolution theory can't make it past the first three requirements on the above list, because there can be no systematic observation of "evolution" while it is supposedly occurring. If something cannot be systematically observed as it is occurring (point 1 above), it is therefore impossible for it to be measured to see how far it has advanced to a different stage (point 2 above). Furthermore, there is no method for experimenting on evolution or creating scenarios where evolution is seen as it occurs (point 3 above). My thread entitled "Darwin's Macroevolution -- Why Unscientific" present's evidence of the inability to experiment (demonstrate) evolution in light of the fact that the fossils record presents not one single example of creatures evolving into something other than what they started off as. http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...rwins-macroevolution-why-unscientific-23.html

Alter2Ego

 

DBM aka FDS:

Evolution theory, in and of itself, is not a religion. Rather, it is a religious belief.

On the other hand, Atheism is a religion--and this has been confirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court. Simply put, evolution theory is one of the religious ideologies that is found within the Religion of Atheism.

Alter2Ego

 

This is demonstrably false and woefully ignorant. We directly observe evolution in the laboratory in a daily basis. We measure it, experiment and test hypothesis and to date there is no evidence to show that evolution is not correct. If you think you can do that you would be the most famous scientist in history, as you would have disproven the entire field did biology.

 

Atheism and evolution by definition are not a religion. Atheism is the lack of belief in a god or gods. Evolution is the method of which life change via mutation, natural selection and adaptation.

 

rahl:

I clearly stated in my above reply to DBM aka FDS that evolution is not a religion. Instead, evolution is one of the religious beliefs of members of the Religion of Atheism.

The U.S. Supreme Court confirms that Atheism is Religion. In fact, I will start a thread on that topic.

Alter2Ego

 

Which I refuted. Evolution by definition is not a religion, thus not a religious belief.

You are taking that ruling out of context. Atheism by definition is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn’t a sport.

 

rahl:

See my new thread entitled:
U.S. Supreme Court Ruling: ATHEISM IS RELIGION

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-atheism-is-religion.564760/#post-1071189287

 

Science is comprised of ideas that can be but have not yet been disproved.
Religion is comprised of ideas that cannot be disproved.
Darwinian evolution is a religious belief in that it cannot be disproved. There is no way to test Darwinian evolution.

 

The irony here is that the religionists are trying to devalue an accepted scientific theory by portraying it as a religion, and thus invalid. Well done, guys!

 

rahl:

What you wrote above (which I bolded in red) is in fact "demonstrably false and woefully ignorant." Why so? Because as I have already stated, evolution has never been observed. What is observed in the laboratory "in a daily basis," as you claim, is nothing more than variation within the exact same species. Variation is not evolution.

Or are you suggesting that the species being examined in the laboratory actually "evolved" into something entirely different from what they started off as?

Let me know.

Alter2Ego

 

Which is a silly and demonstrably false claim. We observe evolution in the lab on a daily basis.