Ex-FBI lawyer to plead guilty in Durham look at Russia probe

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    “Mr. Page is not an advisor and has made no contribution to the campaign," the campaign's communications director Jason Miller said in an email to The Hill. "I've never spoken to him, and wouldn't recognize him if he were sitting next to me."
     
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    Have you been in a coma for the last 3+ years? Democrats attempted a coup of a sitting president under the Obama administration. Do you think Obama was in the dark even after Strzok texted that he wanted to be kept informed? Or was Obama just the dumbest president in history?
     
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    There's no defense... It sounded like he was guilty a year ago when Horowitz made the criminal complaint and today confirms it...

    Damn dumb thing to do, but in the grand scope of the actual and likely crimes surrounding this administration, it's just hard to get excited over a guy who added 4 words to an EMAIL to get a 4th renewal of a warrant on somebody completely not associated with the Trump campaign, 8 months after that campaign ended...
     
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    B-B-But ALL of our leftists SHRIEKED that there was absolutely nothing illegal about any of the FISA warrant processing and that all of this was just whistling in the dark. Gosh . . . you mean that they were . . . wrong? B-But Trump/Russia! Bob Mueller! "We've got Trump this time!"
     
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    Would have preferred that, but no... I've seen every ****ing horrible thing this administration has done..

    Try and stay on topic... What plot was Clinesmith a part of?? Based on what?
     
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    Because the political Left is desparate that it happens that way since they do NOT want Trump to be able to prove to the nation at this point in time that it really was all just a totally illegal political witchhunt concocted by the RINO and Leftist leadership infesting the Obama administration.
     
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    His lie was that he changed information that showed Carter Page HAD WORKED for the CIA to he HAD NOT worked for the CIA as an informant.
     
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    Terrible crime! Throw a book at him!
     
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    This “guy” is an FBI attorney. Do you think, he may know where the bodies are buried? :D
     
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    No. Biden will let the DOJ do its thing without political interference.

    * I know you were being sarcastic when you wrote that.
     
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    I thought Trump was supposed to plead guilty. It seems everyone is going down except Trump.
     
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    No they weren’t. You guys keep saying that but I’ve yet to see any evidence that any member of the trumper campaign was the target of any surveillance.

    Prove it.
     
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    "I done it. The rest of them went thataway and I'll track 'em for you."
     
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    No. Obama/Biden's illegal spying on the Trump Campaign and Transition are well known.
    Clinesmith Pleads Guilty On Russiagate Fraud By Obama/Biden FBI.

    Section 1001(a)(3) of the federal penal code recognizes the fundamental rights violation of knowingly and willfully making use a false writing or document that contains a materially false entry, punishable by up to five years’ imprisonment.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/connecting-the-dots-in-clinesmiths-russiagate-guilty-plea/

    The Felon Clinesmith helped agents prepare applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for warrants that authorize eavesdropping and other monitoring of suspected agents of foreign powers.
    The charge is contained in a criminal information, link here.

    Prior to the FBI seeking it's first FISA warrant, the CIA provided the Crossfire Hurricane team with a memo detailing that Page was a dependable asset who provided them information following his contacts with certain Russian intelligence officers.

    The criminal charge against the FBI's lawyer in the Obama/Biden FBI states:
    This concealment is certainly a significant aspect of the John Durham Investigation.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/connecting-the-dots-in-clinesmiths-russiagate-guilty-plea/
     
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    Remember the Schiff memo? That is the farce produced by House Democrats, to refute the Nunes memo — that the FBI’s surveillance of Page was entirely baseless and dependent on the pure crap Crooked Hillary Steele dossier. The Lying Schiff memo highlighted pre-dossier information: “Page’s past relationships with Russian spies.”

    Never did the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, then Ranking member of the Intelligence Committee admit that Page's past relationships with Russian spies was as a CIA source! No. They used his CIA work as described in the Crap Hillary/Steele dossier as a pretext to pretend to believe that Page and, indeed, the Trump campaign and Donald Trump himself, were in cahoots with the Putin regime, in order to justify spying on him.

    Page himself surely told the Bureau about his contacts with Russian intelligence as a CIA asset. Very likely the FBI knew that, from both the CIA and Page himself, before it ever sought the FISA warrants. But remember, they also widely believed that Hillary would win by a landslide, that they would all continue in their positions, and that no one would ever know that they had illegally spied on the Trump campaign. The FISA warrant application concealed all of this and argued that they had probable cause to believe Page was knowingly working for Russia against the United States and on behalf of the Trump campaign, based on verified evidence. In reality, they had no such thing.

    As the criminal information against Clinesmith recounts:
    That's a very simple Yes/No question.
    He lied.

    The SSA wisely asked for that in writing.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/connecting-the-dots-in-clinesmiths-russiagate-guilty-plea/
     
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    Flimsy Counterintelligence or Flimsy Criminal Investigation?
    In the charge filed by U.S. Attorney Durham, he describes the Bureau’s Trump-Russia probe as a criminal investigation from the start:
    Lying/Leaking James Comey in March 2017 public testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, described it as a counterintelligence investigation:

    As counterintelligence surveillance authorities do not require proof of probable cause of a criminal-law violation, it is an abuse if they are exploited to steer criminal investigations, which do. It is not a regular aspect of a counterintelligence investigation to assess the intelligence gathered to determine whether crimes were committed.
    When an administration authorizes an investigation of its political opponents,
    In the Trump-Russia investigation, the FBI used the flimsy pretext of FARA
    This pretext was supported by nothing more than Crooked Hillary/Democrat Party dirt purchased from purveyors in Russian bar room gossip.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/connecting-the-dots-in-clinesmiths-russiagate-guilty-plea/
     
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    We were right the entire time,
    The folks falsely slandering Trump were wrong the whole time.
    The fake news was pushing lies the entire time.
    Their "unnamed sources" were either complete fabrications or were feeding them lies.
    And no one in the Lying Fake News Propaganda Operation appears outraged that "they were misled by sources" which indicates that it was all a coordinated snow job and they all knew it.

    And some folks wonder why they have no credibility? Some folks have gone from promoting all these lies, to promoting riots, assualts and looting? Dirty Bob Mueller spent how many millions with how much top staff and realized none of this? The Mueller team were as big of liars as the Obama FBI. Interestingly, it was the CIA that told truth, but with the flood of leaks, they never managed to leak the truth to a single reporter? Jack Tapper? Rachel Madcow? Sassy Jim Accosta? They just seemed to all traffic in the lies. Don Lemon? But, not a single CIA agent could bring themselves to tell the truth? Blow the whistle?

    How many lying whistleblowers did we get? But not ONE person in DOJ, FBI, or the CIA ever managed to stand up and tell the truth, until Bill Barr was finally put in charge?

    Disgusting.
     
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    Again...Page was no longer part of the Trump campaign when the FISA warrant was issued
     
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    No surprise...

    Russia-focused Maddow somehow skips Durham-probe development

    The cable news star has seen her ratings drop since the conclusion of the Mueller investigation -- despite millions of potential viewers largely confined to their homes

    MSNBC's Rachel Maddow was once the go-to cable news host for the latest developments on what she believed was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

    Now, she seems to be steering clear of the latest developments that undermine the narrative she pushed for years.

    Maddow isn't the only cable news personality to ignore Clinesmith's guilty plea during primetime. CNN's Anderson Cooper ignored the major news during his two hours on air. His colleague Don Lemon did the same in the 10 p.m. timeslot.

    Among the evening broadcast programs, "NBC Nightly News" also skipped the FBI controversy while ABC's "World News Tonight" and the "CBS Evening News" addressed it.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc...guilty-plea-despite-previous-russia-obsession
     
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    The first of the Obamagate gang is going down! Justice for the American people!
     
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    Yes, but lying is.
     
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    But Trump lies. Orange Man Bad. Is that all you got?
     
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    So a private citizen was denied his rights of privacy guaranteed by the constitution based on rumors and innuendo, that's such a better look!
     
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