Exploding Knife Violence on the streets of London

You are struggling with your own police. Did you injure your "numerous" attackers?
If you did and you are now a law abiding British subject shouldn't you turn yourself in?

"You must not get a product which is made or adapted to cause a person injury. Possession of such a product in public (and in private in specific circumstances) is against the law." Ask the Police
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm

 

So educate me and define self defense.
Obviously I know nothing of it,

Thrill me with your acumen........

 

You telling me that you don't know the definition of self-defence, but supported Ddyad made up claim anyway? That's a darn shame.

Strange really, given all of the CPS details are available online. This part might tickle your fancy...

"If there has been an attack so that defence is reasonably necessary, it will be recognised that a person defending himself cannot weigh to a nicety the exact measure of his defensive action. If the jury thought that in a moment of unexpected anguish a person attacked had only done what he honestly and instinctively thought necessary that would be the most potent evidence that only reasonable defensive action had been taken..."

 

Title: Reasonable man act.

 

You pitching Hollywood film scripts?

 

A person who meets the reasonable man standard and who clearly acted to save their life or that of another within the bounds and scope of the law is what's called “perfect self-defense.”

Imperfect self-defense is a situation where a person honestly believed their life was in danger, but it wasn't a reasonable belief.

It is a concept in Law.
It exists in Medical legal too.

 

No you bored me and didn't say the obvious: i.e. the idea that the "UK government has taken away the right of any effective self defense" is cretinous

 

Dear boy, take a calm, there is scant need for hasty words.

 

No skin off my nose if you support the nonsensical

 

I may disagree with you, but I respect you as a person, and only endeavor to debate the topic in a respectful manner.

And it would be If I support the whimsical.

 

So you agree that the "UK government has taken away the right of any effective self defense"?

 

I will leave that to you.
Do you say that you have the Right to self defense ?

 

Try not to be rude and respond to a question with a question. Its a simple question too: Do you agree that the "UK government has taken away the right of any effective self defense"?

 

Short Answer: I believe that to be true, yes.

A popular personal defense item around London and other parts was a stout Malaga walking stick, when out walking the streets and roads, and if a Rascal attempted, a sound thrashing would be the end result, now, that is action is considered an Offensive act....

https://www.pinterest.com/lolamedusa/walking-stick-good-for-walking-protection/

Canes and walking sticks cannot be completely proscribed as "Offensive Weaponry" as many People really need one.
Although more ornamental originally than a weapon, a walking stick was considered debonair accessories of the Bon Vivant man about town as well as rakish hats.

The prominent knob on featured on such canes and sticks, was usually a Brass head or Gargoyle etc, a skull crusher as well as an Ornament, the tactic when facing an Armed adversary was to feign weakness then repell the advances of a Rogue swiftly and decisively often ending the Rogues entire career in one swift motion dashing out the assailants meager brains.

Until this became illegal and bloody offensive Dash it all !

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-19886504

Nice basic explanation of current views on personal defense.

"The Justice Secretary has proposed amending the law in England and Wales on self-defence to protect householders who over-react when confronted by a burglar or intruder. What is the law on self defence in the home - and where do victims stand if confronted?

What force does the law allow?

In England and Wales, anyone can use "reasonable" force to protect themselves or others, or to carry out an arrest or to prevent crime. Householders are protected from prosecution as long as they act "honestly and instinctively" in the heat of the moment. "Fine judgements" over the level of force used are not expected, says the Crown Prosecution Service.

What this means in practice is that someone can claim they attacked in self-defence if they genuinely believed they were in peril - even if in hindsight they were clearly wrong."

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This is an expanded or comprehensive view of the "Reasonable Man standard."

A person who meets the reasonable man standard and who clearly acted to save their life or that of another within the bounds and scope of the law is what's called “perfect self-defense.”

Imperfect self-defense is a situation where a person honestly believed their life was in danger, but it wasn't a reasonable belief.

However, in U.K.
arrest is still likely as not.

 

Then you have a problem with logic (given British laws maintain the right to self defence). It's interesting, mind you, how pro gunners attitudes encourage nonsensical claims.

 

Again, you truncated my complete commentary and that is indeed Cretinous and very well not true.
In context you would understand my factual post if you bother to read it through and not persist in flame bait and trolling.

 

I wasn't interested in your attempt at justification. Once you made nonsensical claim you gave the game away.

 

Nothing of that claim is true.

You have no interest in honest debate.

 

I asked a simple question and you responded with a statement that was inconsistent with any notion of truth.

To suggest honest debate, when you make such nonsensical claims, is not credible.

 

You have yet to produce credible evidence that I have made nonsensical claims.

 

Do you agree that the 'UK government has taken away the right of any effective self defense'?

"Short Answer: I believe that to be true, yes"

 

Prove me wrong then.
Every time a bloke defends himself, it is dodgy going even if no charges are filed afterwards..

 

Already have, referring directly to the CPS

 

More more knife control, no new knife culture,
Are butter knives next on the chopping block ?