Explosion rocks arms depot north of Iraq's Baghdad

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  1. alexa

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    Oh, Bibi is just trying to elevate his stature before the election. There was also a huge poster of Bibi and Trump. It's like "look at me!! with these world leaders".
     
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    You put me in a tough spot! I certainly don't want to alienate potential allies of Iran by pointing to the truth too vigorously, but at the same time, the truth to me is worth telling regardless. Now, tell me this: how do such sporadic words translate to support "when it counts"? I can post a hundred more specific, direct, and supportive statements by Russia against the US invasion of Iraq in 2003. Did those statements count? Not that I have any issue with Saddam facing the punishment he justly deserved (albeit for his real crimes, and not the bogus WMD stories and the like), but how did such statements "count" or help Saddam? What about Qaddafi?

    On Iran, do you really believe that there was any justification for Iran to find itself under not just US, not just EU, but even several UN sanctions for its nuclear program? A nuclear program that even the CIA had acknowledged was not pursuing weapons but civilian activities within the confines of the NPT? If not, then how come the Russians -- despite their veto -- allowed for these UN sanctions to pass against Iran in the first place? Weren't the Russians just appeasing the Israelis and the Americans and is that the support that "counts"?

    I don't want to open this whole can of worms, as there are actually a lot of worms in there, but honestly: Russia needs to decide if it wants to be a major power or not? If it does, it just doesn't look good for it to be marching in the same line as set by the US/Israel, even if it occasionally protests the march and sometimes throws a tantrum and sits out of it altogether.
     
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    Russia is just in the last few years getting a foothold on being a major power. Things are starting to gel with China, which enhances the whole non-aligned movement. The SCO, of which Iran is an observer, is maturing.

    As I said earlier, things are happening. Too slow for some, but look what these countries are facing. It's a delicate balancing act. And face it, neither you nor I are privy to what goes on out of the public eye.

    You seem more interested in casting stones, however. To each his own.
     
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    No doubt? That's funny. I suspect you are all alone in that position.
     
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    Really?

    As an investigation into the most recent blasts continued, eyes were on another suspect, Israel, which has launched hundreds of attacks against alleged Iran-associated sites in Syria and has vowed to take this campaign elsewhere too.

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu further fueled this speculation told reporters Thursday that "Iran has no immunity, anywhere" as quoted by The Times of Israel. He added: "We will act — and currently are acting — against them, wherever it is necessary."
     
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    You should read the article it came from.
     
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    I did. Had read about the election posters a week or so ago. Seems like everyone has a Russia/Israel angle working these days. To what end, I don't know except to discredit Putin.
     
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    You can speculate all you want. I view speculation as funny and pointless. If Israel is actually attacking Iran, I say Go Israel.
     
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    You can find the same story, which was broken first by the New York Times, in practically every major news source. But I cited the story for you, given your ridiculous comment in response to what I had said. You still hold to that view? Or you never did and just wanted to have a jab?

    Anyway, the Israelis are continuing their aggression in Syria as well. They are badly itching to be hit hard! They may end up with what they are hoping to get. A direct Iranian response to their actions.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...gainst-syria-to-foil-iran-killer-drone-attack
    Netanyahu hails Israel strikes against Syria to foil Iran 'killer drone attack'
     
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    Ridiculous. Ridicule away. Israel is one of our strongest allies and Iran is an enemy. Any destruction Israel can put on Iran is positive in my view. More ridiculous is your apparent belief that Iran is not an enemy of the U.S.
     
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    Uh... We are at war. But spending more lives and treasure is not going to win it. We cannot afford to be pulled back in. Israel is doing a fine job.
     
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    Bahrain's Foreign Minister gives backing to Israel, without mentioning it in its name: "Do not make allegations to anyone who attacks its ( Iran's ) affiliates."
     
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    I guess what I posted elsewhere on this subject, bears being re-posted here as well, but maybe with some additional emphasis!

    Mattis is showing a very selective memory of what got him his early retirement during the Obama administration and his version of the chest thump makes me think he is thinking of a run for political office. Or else he is just trying to sell his book.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/james-mattis-iran-secretary-of-defense-214500
    James Mattis’ 33-Year Grudge Against Iran
    But the minute Mattis found himself under a president who seemed clueless about what a war with Iran would really entail (Mattis' plan envisioned something akin to a D-Day like invasion of Iran, which obviously would hold no appeal for a president who imagined war with Iran would an aerial Nintendo game), most of his energy was spent cooling Trump's impulses and, if not properly educating him on the subject, at least ignoring his tantrums and the childish views he would pick up watching too much of FOX news.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/06/28/mattiss-last-stand-is-iran/
    Mattis’s Last Stand Is Iran
    As the U.S. defense secretary drifts further from President Donald Trump’s inner circle, his mission gets clearer: preventing war with Tehran.


    https://www.military.com/daily-news...iran-first-public-remarks-leaving-office.html
    Mattis Warns Against War with Iran in First Public Remarks Since Leaving Office


    see also
    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...reportedly-ignored-trump-request-iran-options
    Defense Secretary reportedly ignored Trump request for Iran options
     
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    oh.. you support th e Mullahs,
     

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