Extinction Rebellion

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by garry17, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not really.
     
  2. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    You’re right in the middle?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Crazy is thinking violence will be the vehicle to achieve your aims or that breaking the law is righteous in a country that provides legal means to redress grievances.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you think all climate activists are
    ?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most are just deluded basing their activism on erroneous information but not crazy.
     
  6. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    I suppose we’ll have to agree to disagree.
     
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  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you don't know what the fear mongering is based on, you don't know why they are misled.
     
  8. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Probably.
     
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    Oh I forgot, you deliberately misrepresent comments to build strawmen because you cannot discuss the points raised. Sorry, but not interested in discussing your strawmen. Get back to me when you want to discuss issues raised not your imagination.
     
  10. a better world

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    You questioned funding. I supplied some pointers. OK you can go back to sleep,
     
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    Hmmm,
    that's what I think about climate deniers, deluded, extreme conservative, still living in the past.
    No personal offence meant, just my five cents,
    reg.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, when one is only familiar with media reporting and not all of the science one falls victim to tribalism based on the propaganda of fear.
     
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    As I said,. you deliberately misrepresent comments to build strawmen because you cannot discuss the points raised. Sorry, but not interested in discussing your strawmen. Get back to me when you want to discuss issues raised not your imagination.
     
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    And as I said, remain ignorant, and go back to sleep...
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The UN had a report out yesterday and it is not happy reading. Our emissions are still growing not diminishing

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-50547073
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Well,
    I agree. The right side of the fence denies science where as the left is more open to it, you just made my point,
    reg.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Open to the propaganda based on the least likely worst case unproven computer model. Since you now know what the fear mongering is based on, do some research.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is true. However as Paul Morton says the left gave the needed excuse to the far right both for denying climate change and for their irrationality.



    and that seems to be what has happened. They have decided it is fine to be irrational and ignore scientists even if this results in our extinction and support Corporate Power to destroy the planet and them and their families with it because they believe it is somehow not rational to believe Scientists and those in charge of keeping the world as safe as possible eg. UN. They believe that it is rational to support the world's biggest planet destroyers, the richest people in the world and ignore those trying to save our planet. I am not sure what they, the working class far right are getting from it.
     
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    and as I said, you deliberately misrepresent comments to build strawmen, Get back to me when you want to discuss issues raised not your imagination
     
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    I prefer to discuss the transition from filthy fossil to clean green, which must happen regardless of the CO2-climate change issue, because there is plenty of evidence concerning the negative long term health and environmental effects of particulate matter, soot, poisonous gases, etc from burning fossil fuels.

    Now, if the climate scientist are correct - which you will of course deny (as Alexa is discovering) - no matter what conclusions they draw from their models or field data, then the transition will have achieved even much more than the desirable goals outlined above by me....)

    Now if you do want to discuss these issues, don't mention funding (cost of) the transition again.....(or you'll hear me shouting from the other side of the world...)

    "Straw men"....
     
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    and as I said, you deliberately misrepresent comments to build strawmen, Get back to me when you want to discuss issues raised not your imagination.
     
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    Logical discussion won't work.
     
  24. a better world

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    Yes sadly that is often the reality when debating the Right.
     
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