Facebook bans Holocaust Denial and tampering of Nazi History

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  1. CKW

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    That is not healthy. Though we can wonder about the motives to spread false info regarding the holocaust ....history can be rewritten and it should all be debatable. The Tulsa Massacure for instance where news organizations routinely report that 300 blacks were massacred. If you look where that count came from you find it was over a period of a year as people visited the red cross hospital set up there and some were whites. The original count was around 39, 13 of those white. All information should be up for debate.
     
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    If I may jump in briefly...
    about Gypsies:
    I grew up in Germany during the war and I can tell you, that shortly after the war had ended, the Gypsies were back, they came to our village to beg. A Gypsy lady even read my mother's palm and predicted, she would live to the ripe old age of 96 years!

    About Homosexuals...
    in our village we had one known Homosexual, about the age of my older brother. This young man, I shall call him Emil, worked in the same office as one of my brothers. Emil never went to war, but continued working in the office of the nearby town. But at least twice I heard from my father telling my mother at the lunch table, that Emil had been caught loitering around the men's washroom at the train station and the police had caught him. He was sent to prison for three weeks.

    Severely handicapped people:
    A mentally deficient woman living with her old parents on a nearby farm would frequently come to our house to have some cans, filled with foodstuff, sealed. We owned a little canning machine.
    She was never at any time put into a concentration camp or euthanized.

    Also, still during or shortly after the war, I observed a severely physically impaired boy, perhaps 12 years old, walking/dragging/gesticulating along the sidewalk of the nearby town, accompanied by his father.
    He, too, was free!

    So much for your "hundreds of thousands of homosexuals, gypsies, and other groups Nazi's didn't like perished in your death camps."

    While I'm at it...
    I know of three Jews from our nearby town who came back after the war to continue their businesses. One was a banker, the other a clothing merchant and the third a jeweler.
    I was only a kid at the time, if it had been now I would have asked them what it was like in the concentration camp.

    Uebermensch:
    When I was in grade one (1941), there was an order from Hitler that all Polish children in Germany should go to school with the rest of us. The Polish parents came one morning with 2 or 3 little children, at least one was a girl, I remember, to our one-room country school. The teacher proceeded to tell us kids on the lower benches to make room. I gladly did and was hoping to have the little girl sit beside me. But... all of a sudden the older siblings got up and yanked their younger brothers and sisters away, yelling, the Polish kids had lice. A commotion ensued and the teacher, instead of calling the big kids to order, told the Polish parents to take their children home again.
    I do not know what was discussed and decided afterwards, but the Polish children never came back, to my disappointment. But you see, the Hitler brass was quite humane and wanted the Polish children to get educated, be equal to us German kids.

    My parents were both "Nazis!" My Dad was the "Blockleiter" of our village and thus was the contact man for the party. He was the kindest man you could approach and ask for help at any time. I remember one time a young Polish woman from the next village came to him, asking if he could build a small casket for her "Angel", her deceased baby girl. No problem, he built the casket and added the wood shavings as a soft cushion. The poor woman was so relieved and thankful.

    As Blockleiter my Dad had orders to go at night behind people's windows and spy on them in case they were listening to an outlandish radio station. That was below my Dad's character! Instead, he made an announcement during break time, when most of the farm workers came to his wood shop, telling them not to listen to foreign stations, it was verboten!!

    I never met an "Uebermensch" during the war years.

    Haha... in 1944 we got lice anyway without the Polish children!! I had long braids at the time!!!





     
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    I don't think banning a certain topic on Facebook makes it "not debatable". Facebook is not the only social platform on the internet.

    Yes, information should be up for debate. Holocaust denial is not information, however. It's a conspiracy theory claiming that the Holocaust was invented - or at least greatly exaggerated on purpose - by Jews. It's just one in a long list of libels, starting with "Jews caused the 12th century earthquake in Rome", going through "Jews brought the 14th century Black Death to Europe" and "Jews drink Christian children's blood", culminating in "Jews control the media/banks/US/whatever".

    Ever asked yourself why nobody accuses Poles, or Russians, of lying about their own dead and suffering in WWII?
     
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    Free thought is important. Period. You cant make one incident that revolves around one group the one exception. It doesnt work that way. And social media, google, YouTube and websites are the main method of communicating ideas and information. And now these platforms are turning activist, shutting down websites, facebook pages and twitter at whim. Not healthy.
     
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    Free thought is not the product of social media, so let's stop building tall fat straw men.

    So...Holocaust denial is the one and only topic Facebook and other social media had ever banned, you say. Really?

    https://about.fb.com/news/2020/06/banning-a-violent-network-in-the-us/
    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48142098
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/oct/06/qanon-facebook-ban-conspiracy-theory-groups
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/13/facebook-bans-anti-vax-ads.html
    https://www.reuters.com/article/facebook-india-int-idUSKBN25U1CL

    Some people just can't take their noses out of one group's collective behind long enough to understand that this is not where reality hides.
     
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    Thank you for underscoring the importance of free speech especially when it comes to the open discussion and honest examination of society's most volatile and heavily protected myths such as the standard holocaust narrative.

    That same fraudulent narrative has been used to torture, persecute and murder millions of innocent people while extorting countless $ Billions from people not even alive in the WW 2 era.

    Therefore, the holocaust narrative is not just some harmless urban myth since much of it is just a cruel and slanderous crassly exploited fraud that even 75 years after WW 2 is used by a corrupt Holocaust Industry(1), (2) to extract hundreds of $Millions from today's German taxpayers(3).

    You were asked why other large scale tragedies are not so widely rejected(4) as the standard holocaust narrative. Actually, some are such as the extensive Polish role in persecuting Jews before, during and after WW 2. (5) while others have hard evidence to support many claims.

    What makes the standard holocaust narrative so widely rejected(4) is that there is no hard evidence to support the outrageous and often contradictory stories related by holocaust survivors many of whom are outright liars in search of easy money and quick fame. (6)

    Fortunately, the truth has a way of coming out on top in spite of desperate efforts by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry and it's complicit MSM to quash it while a lie must have draconian censorship and "holocaust denial" laws to survive.


    (1) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    (2) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”
    ”CONTINUED


    (3) Germany agrees to send $662 million in aid to Holocaust survivors
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/14/germany-coronavirus-aid-holocaust-survivors-429418


    (4) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT "Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED



    (5) "1946 US report said ‘Poles persecuted the Jews as vigorously as did the Germans’"

    "Post-war declassified State Department document found long history of Polish anti-Semitism before, during and after Holocaust"

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/1946-...ed-the-jews-as-vigorously-as-did-the-germans/



    (6) "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes"
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

    EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war.

    No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out.

    Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED
     
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    I read the stories like the above. I get that Nazis would like for folks to forget their atrocities. I understand that Germans don't want to shoulder the shame of their forefathers. That doesn't, though, require the rest of us to forget. Germans have been able to overcome and their modern country is a testament to the support and rebuilding efforts of the US. It also shows the resilience of the German people themselves. It doesn't give folks, like the poster above, or others the latitude to attempt to whitewash over the history of their nation. The attempt to humanize the brutality is immoral. I wonder at the reason these particular posters felt it necessary to indulge their inner Nazi propaganda instinct. But it really doesn't matter. History has been saved for the reason that it must be remembered so folks are never tempted again to drive down such a selfish and destructive path on the merits of Eugenics.
     
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    Gee, who to believe?

    An eyewitness to history relating historical facts....

    Or

    An anonymous poster with his canned propaganda photos who doesn't even know that Eugenics was popular in the US long before WW 2.


    Beware of holo-horror photos:

    "Holocaust Fake pics 1"
    http://lovkap.blogspot.com/2014/09/holocaust-fake-pics-1.html
    EXCERPT:
    Lies being taught;
    There are several photographs showing holocaust of Jews.
    The Truth;
    The photographs are fakes. here some samples.
    CONTINUED
     
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    What do you think of the latest claim?....

    Newly Discovered Ukrainian Victims Of Soviet Holomodor Were Jews ‘Gassed’ By Nazis

    78 years after they were allegedly ‘gassed’ by the Nazis, the remains of the bodies of 286 Jews, mostly women and children, were found in a basement under the market square in the town of Stanov in Khmelnytsky Oblast, Ukraine:

    According to KGB documents and testimonies of Jews returning to the city after the war, on the night of May 14-15, 1942, the Nazis rounded up 286 Jews, mostly women and children, and put them in two cellars – where they killed them with gas. “The Nazis did not even use bullets and killed the Jews with terrible cruelty in the cellars,“ says Rabbi Alexander Feingold, rabbi of the Khmelnytsky and Ternopil districts in Ukraine.

    After the war, the cellars were opened, but it was decided to leave the bodies in place with a sign indicating that they had been murdered by the Nazis.

    Read all here:
    https://ww2truth.com/2020/08/03/jew...f-soviet-holomodor-were-jews-gassed-by-nazis/
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    Hard to say what the truth is after such a long time. Since the Nazis are all dead by now, it really doesn't matter anymore how many new victims get added to their score! They have been declared long ago to be the "greatest evil in the world", according to my television!!

    To think, I grew up in a Nazi home!!! :shock:
     
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    Do you trust FB has accurate, honest and unbiased historians reviewing content before its censored?

    Of so... WHY?

    Sure, its easy to accept the censorship of morons claiming the Nazis did nothing wrong (or w/e, i've been off FB for years), but where does the censhorship end?
     
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    What do you want to say with those pictures? The IRC has regularly inspected the camps and has given Germany a clean record. The Germans did what they could to stop the spread of typhus.

    There are different types of typhus.
    Each type is caused by different type of bacteria and spreads through different vectors.
    Scrub typhus is caused by Orientia tsutsugamushi and spreads through chigger bites.
    Murine typhus is caused by Rickettsia typhi and spreads through fleas.
    Epidemic typhus is caused by Rickettsia prowazekii and spreads through lice.

    Patients get headaches, diarrhea and vomit... loosing weight rapidly. That's why we see these emancipated corpses. That was not willfully done by the evil Nazis!!

    But what was willfully done, was dropping those 100 000s of bombs on Dresden!
    Dropping "Fat Boy" and "little boy" on innocent people in Nagasaki and Hiroshima!
    Not to forget... spraying toxic "Agent Orange" on the Vietnamese people, inc. children and women!
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    [​IMG] the harbor city of Kiel, only 20km away from my parents' home! One foggy night the bombs fell only 1-2 km away from our house. They had mistaken the nearby river as the Kieler harbor!!

    And then, when the war had ended and the victors celebrated, 1.7 million German soldiers were deliberately starved to death by order of Eisenhower. Watch video here...

    https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=78516

    One of those soldiers was my youngest brother, 18 years old! Luckily, he survived and was shipped to France for 3 years of slave labor, which turned out to be a blessing, because working on a farm, he was able to recover fully!

    Why don't you, drluggit, get off your high horse and "shoulder the shame of your forefathers" instead of white-washing their atrocities?
     
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    I don't give much credibility to this recent "evil German" story primarily because residential cellars make terrible gas chambers and similar Soviet propaganda stories have turned out to be untrue.

    It's more likely that the Ukrainians killed the Jews in this instance out of revenge for the significant Jewish role in the Holodomor(1) since the chaos of WW 2 provided an excellent opportunity to settle old, tribal, ethnic and national grievances.




    (1) "Stalin's Jews"
    "We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"


    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.
    In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

    Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED
     
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    MORE HOLO-PORN PHOTOS

    What in the sick and hate filled minds of holocaustian cult members is aroused by photos of naked, typhus ridden corpses that prove nothing?

    1. No one here has denied that the holocaust happened, only that it has been grossly exaggerated and crassly exploited.

    2. The naked body photos that seem to satisfy some sickness in the holocaustian mind are just as frequently deliberately mislabeled photos of murdered German POWs as they are of dead work camp inmates. Remember, the Allies brought in Hollywood professionals(1) to maximize the shock effect of their propaganda agenda and deflect criticism of their own war crimes.

    3. Piles of dead and naked typhus ridded bodies only prove that people died. They do not prove that there was a genocidal German agenda or that the victims were executed.

    If your goal is to convince people that there is any truth to the standard holocaust narrative, try doing it through open and honest debate and enjoy your holo-porn with whatever other fetishes you may have.



    (1) "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps"
    https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/


    EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war.

    But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services." CONTINUED
     
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    I've only read the preface to the book and reviews of the book but not read the book itself.

    As badly needed as an honest assessment of Germany's role in the WW 2 era may be, I'm afraid that it's too little too late in face of the glut of anti German propaganda via the Holocaust Industry and its complicit Hollywood.

    Based on many of the responses I've read in holocaust related threads here, most Americans seem to have formed their opinions of the European theater of WW 2 from one dimensional, fictional and simplistic WW 2 movies such as "Band of Brothers", "The Dirty Dozen", "The Great Escape" and too many heavily hyped but equally unbelievable holocaust movies.

    Since no one who believes the standard holocaust narrative (SHN) seems to be able to defend it here, I suspect that Facebook has decided to censor open debate and honest examination of the holocaust for the same reason that it is, indeed, largely a myth that is indefensible.

    Why do you think that no one has been able to defend the SHN?
     
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    Dear Grau; all that's needed is an honest American President who will...

    a) apologize to the German people for the many lies and the murder of its defenseless POWs, herded onto the Rhine meadows to perish.

    b) declare the Nuernberg war trials null and void and pay reparations to Germany for the torture of its leaders and soldiers.

    c) declare the "holocaust" open to free debate and research!

    d} return Germany's gold with interest!!

    Trump, a German by ancestry, could have done just that, but instead he has crawled to bed with the Zionists. He knows who butters his bread!
     
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    Best stock up on aluminum foil before it runs out! Golly Miss Molly, really. REALLY??? Guess the Earth is flat after all!
     
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    The tin foil hat/ Flat Earth social element is really anyone who is gullible enough to believe the physically impossible and outrageous standard holocaust narrative (SHN).

    An ADL study showed that only about 1/3 of the world's people actually believe the SHN but I think that it is reasonable to conclude that the figure is closer to 1/4 because people who do not believe the SHN and live in countries with "holocaust denial laws" are less likely to answer honestly out of fear of being locked up due to draconian "holocaust denial" laws.

    ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “ Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


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    I suggest people read Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankle.
     
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    I'm afraid that any one who proposed the actions you suggested would never make it far enough in the political scene to become even a presidential candidate.

    The fraudulent Holocaust Industry - Lobby(1), (2) is already pushing for mandatory holocaust brainwashing in American schools.(3)
    These masters of deception have learned that brainwashing is most effective when their victims are young and impressionable.



    (1) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    (2) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”
    CONTINUED


    (3) "On Remembrance Day, US House overwhelmingly passes Holocaust education bill"
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/on-re...erwhelmingly-passes-holocaust-education-bill/

    EXCERPT "The legislation was widely supported by the organized American Jewish community.

    “We are pleased that the House has taken action today, on International Holocaust Remembrance Day, to ensure that the lessons of the Holocaust will be passed from one generation to the next,” said Jonathan Greenblatt, head of the Anti-Defamation League.

    “We look forward to this law’s swift passage and to working closely with teachers and districts across the country to ensure that Holocaust education is uniform and consistent across the country.”CONTINUED
     
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    I'm ok with social media and tech giants being biased and blocking whatever they wish. The problem however is that they then talk out of the other side of their mouths and claim to be an unbiased platform for any and all opinion.

    They cannot have it both ways. Either admit that they are biased and have a political agenda or open up their platforms for all thoughts and ideas as they claim to be doing.

    Holocaust denial is repugnant but it is best to air it out in public and let some fools make their claims as loud as they like.
     
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    I'm glad that at least you are consistent in your valuing of free speech.

    Re:
    Firstly, nobody here has denied that the holocaust happened, only that it has been grossly inflated and crassly exploited for political and monetary gains. What is genuinely repugnant is the relentless and hate filled anti German slander and global extortion racket run by the international Holocaust Industry - Lobby.

    Secondly, there is absolutely no hard evidence to support what has become the standard holocaust narrative; only shocking photos of piles of dead bodies that could be of anyone (German POWs & civilians), tortured confessions fro German POWs and hearsay that is frequently proven to be fraudulent(1)

    - There is no order from Hitler calling for the destruction of Europe's Jews.(2) In fact, many Jews were high ranking Nazi Party members and high ranking German military members themselves.

    - There is no mention of mass executions of anyone in any of the intercepted, secret German radio transmissions.(3)

    - No mass graves have been found that are commensurate with the claimed number of victims(4) and in some cases such as Treblinka, no mass graves have been found at all (5)

    The list of hard evidence disproving the standard holocaust narrative is endless.

    It simply is not rational to suggest that the grossly outnumbered Germans who were fighting a war on 3 fronts could or would waste precious manpower and resources to shuttle millions of people thousands of miles, house them, feed them and medically treat them only to kill them in the most costly, dangerous and labor intensive manner possible.


    (1) "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes"
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

    EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war.

    No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out.

    Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED


    (2) “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

    - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190


    (3) “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
    https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED


    (4) "Air Photo Evidence"
    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html
    EXCERPT
    "The Bottom Line

    EXCERPT "To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed." CONTINUED


    (5)“Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363

    EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves."CONTINUED
     
  25. Soupnazi

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    Wrong.

    Only a fool would make such claims. There may be differences in the body count such as 6 million or 8 million but the narrative is absolutely proven beyond question.

    Most victims were creamted . One does not cremate millions and then BURY the ashes they just dump the ashes.

    It is perfectly ratiponal to stamp out ones internal enemy in a war and use resources to do so. Just as the confederacy did expending massive resources to control the slaves while fighting the Union.

    Hitler did order it VERBALLY

    Too many witnesses prove you wrong as do the photos which are not embiguous as you claim

    Your story is as idiotic as a fat earth claim
     
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