Fact Check: ObamaCare, Not Trump, Is To Blame For Rise In Uninsured In 2017

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Donor

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    Fact Check: ObamaCare, Not Trump, Is To Blame For Rise In Uninsured In 2017

    You hear it here all the time, it's Trump's fault, but is it?



    MORE: https://www.investors.com/politics/...mp-is-not-to-blame-for-rise-in-the-uninsured/
     
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    it sure is
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Donor

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    Facts be damned eh?
     
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    especially when they are blatant lies such as those reported in that link ;)
     
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    About what can be expected, blatant rejection based on some prejudiced notion without being able to counter even a single fact that was presented. So the real "truth" of the matter, being you can't seem to counter, is rejection based on what you want to feel as true.

    That is not a valid argument.
     
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    Since the GOP and Trump passed legislation limiting the amount that went to states, made coverage optional, allowed incomplete coverage plans, left mandates for preexisting conditons and caps to the discretion of each state gov., bet your asteroid it’s no longer Obamacare. The cost for insurance and the increased in the uninsured is at the door step of the GOP. 9 of the last 10 recessions were under GOP budgets. They result in loses of insurance to many. If we don’t get one in the next several years, it will be a first in modern history that Republicans have escaped one that long.
    It’s no longer Obamacare. Obamacare did much to protect people’s health insurance during the recovery from the Bush debackle recession.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...publican-presidents-rule-recessions/93976832/
     
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  7. Hoosier8

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    Bwahahaha, it was failing before that.
     
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    Sure. Keep telling yourself that. Other Trumpets will believe you.
     
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    if it has to be subsidized by the federal gov, it is a failed system
     
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    It’s actually Trump’s parents fault for not practicing birth control.
     
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    So, do you like your MEDICARE ?
     
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    No.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Donor

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    Facts are facts! Sorry you are unaware of them.
     
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    When we hear some, we’ll let you know.
     
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    Gotta luv that private insurance which can deny preexisting conditons and drop you anytime. Let’s make America great again so we can return to 30k dying each year for lack of insurance amd when the biggest cause of bankruptcies are for medical expenses.
     
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    Fact: businesses only charge what their customers can afford, or they are out of business.
    Maintenence plans and 3rd party payers are what has made it so expensive
     
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    The blind shall not see. The TDS will believe anything.
     
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    Your fallacy is comparing healthcare to other private businesses .. If you break your arm or contract cancer, unlike buying a car you don’t look for options, you’ll go the nearest hospital and go into to debt to save your life, regardless of what it costs. You will pay what ever they ask, or they won’t treat you past the emergency room care. You don’t determine costs in healthcare. The post you wrote is all fake news.

    But what the hey, you may believe in God and will gladly offer your thoughts and prayers when a child gets sick and is denied long term care because her family lost their job and their healthcare during one of your last 9 recessions.
    Let’s make America great again and go back to letting more uninsured die.
     
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    Witticisms lacking wit I see.
     
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    The clueless lacking clue I see.
     

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