Fact Check: ObamaCare, Not Trump, Is To Blame For Rise In Uninsured In 2017

Discussion in 'Health Care' started by Hoosier8, May 14, 2018.

  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Statists think like you think. Do you realize statists are authoritarians?
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That has nothing to do with cheap health care and you also ignored that industry was not aware of miners disease either for a long time. Even smoking was once thought of as good since Government issued smokes to troops to smoke. Government is the poor way to do things. Take you making up your mind. How long will it take you to make up your mind? Then take that and make it a dozen more years. That is government working for you. When i was younger, it was always in the movies that the actors smoked a lot. We were covered with smoking agents of the smokers.
     
  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I get my information from medicare. I get stuff sent to me monthly. I get to see the doctors bills too. I get to see when they do not pay doctors or the labs or even hospitals.

    Say your doctor bill is only $100. You might think he gets the $100. But hell no, he might collect $40. Would you work for 40 percent of what your charges are?
     
  4. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    9,515
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why are you changing the topic?
    If the government becomes the single payer insurance company, why can't people just buy their policies? Afterall, it's wonderful and affordable.
     
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2018
  5. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    9,515
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Medicare is charity rate reimbursement.
    Go to medicare for all and no doc can stay in business
     
  6. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    9,515
    Trophy Points:
    113
    These leaches think that the slaves should serve them for nothing
     
  7. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    22,147
    Likes Received:
    5,897
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Since when are you privy to what a doctor really gets and his/ her daily schedule. You don’t know, nor do you get third hand medicine. A doctor can see as many as three patients during an hour at 20 minute rotations as a nurse sets up testing while he/she is seeing someone else. They arrange procedures around doctor availability. They do the same in dentistry, eye doctors and GPs. . They can be rotating through three rooms. You don’t know. If he/she is a specialist and also a surgeon and sees no one during surgical rotations, he could be doing two to three during that day and getting a cool $3500 per. Those are the big pay offs.
     
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2018
  8. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    22,147
    Likes Received:
    5,897
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That’s absolutely wrong. You guys live in a Fox TV time warp.
    Doctors in every other free country in the world which ALL have some form of universal healthcare, make a very good living. For one thing, they don’t have to chase down unpaid bills and write off debts from private companies who are notorious in the medical field for being late payers compared to Medicare.
     
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2018
  9. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    9,515
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hey Mr Expert, what surgery is Medicare reimbursing the physician a big $3500 pay off?
    I'll wait
     
  10. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    9,515
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Suddenly I'm talking to a jealous child, ignorant of the facts
     
  11. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    22,147
    Likes Received:
    5,897
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Try a prostate surgeon. Internal medicine surgeon gets as much, cataract surgery cost between 3500 and 6000 total with surgeon getting much less but can do several more per day. It doesn’t take an Expert, just someone who isn’t too lazy to check while you guys just make up crapolla.
    These claims that doctors won’t make a good living in universal healthcare is crap. The money is saved by not paying the profits for insurance companies.,
     
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2018
  12. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    22,147
    Likes Received:
    5,897
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You’re full of witticism while being totally devote of facts. I suppose you have to wait till Fix News tells you what to say.
    Like your Medicare ?
     
  13. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    9,515
    Trophy Points:
    113
    there is no such thing as an internal medicine surgeon.
    You're making up crap. You have no access to reimbursement data.
     
  14. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    9,515
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What "fact" have you presented? A bunch of jealous conjecture.
     
  15. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    22,147
    Likes Received:
    5,897
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You do know what an internist is....don’t you ?
    The doctor you see for primary care can also be a general surgeon. You never know it and think that’s all he does.....You guys make this rediculous supposition that doctors only get $40 per patient. That’s BS. They make money on surgical days.
    As far as the other cost...just research what surgeons get.
    Can you spell urologist and radical prostectomy ?o

    Cost of cataract surgery.

    https://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/cataract-surgery-cost.htm


    https://www.webmd.com/prostate-canc...prostate-cancer-surgery-varies-widely-in-us#1

    Check out the total surgery cost range. $3500 for the surgical team is pretty conservative. .. . Btw, web MD is a reliable source.
    You aren’t !

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-doctor-see-each-day/?utm_term=.670055a85053

    The average primary care sees 19 patients per day at 22 minutes each,
     
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2018
  16. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    22,147
    Likes Received:
    5,897
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Btw, frauds don’t like universal healthcare for others but still sign up for Medicare for themselves.
     
  17. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    9,515
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There is no such thing as internal medicine surgeon

    Web MD doesn't have access to reimbursement data
     
  18. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,501
    Likes Received:
    3,740
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You all sure fight about the strangest things.
     
  19. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    9,515
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There's no fight.
    He's making **** up as he goes.
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2018

Share This Page