Fact check: Would a U.S. House bill ban assault weapons?

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  1. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not American but I think to "bear arms" means to own arms.
    The Democrats, Republicans, KKK, NRA, international socialists,
    Greens, women's temperance movement etc should have access
    or control over heavy weapons. If say the NRA wants to nuke the
    Greens then they should be able to under the 2nd amendment.
    It's important to realize that weaponry has moved on from light
    arms.
     
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    So does your assertion fall in line with States that placed legal restrictions on "bearing arms" outside the confines of their home, between homes - only directly to shooting ranges & back again etc... ? Seems like bearing arms has euphemistically been construed by some to narrowly mean something that it is not ~ (possession inside a locked gun safe).

    A firearm is a tool with a specific use; how can a tool be utilized & benefited from if it can't be availed freely by a person in the varied & extemporaneous course of daily living!
     
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    Does "arms" also include shoulder launched missiles, Trident submarines and tactical nukes?
    The constitution doesn't say. I think these should be freely available to citizens who have paid
    for these out of their taxes.
    And of course, to carry what you can, when you can.
     
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    Long story short:
    Your right to keep and bear arms, as it pertains to self-defense cannot be soundly limited to your home, but extends to anywhere you have a right to be.
     
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    How about on the floor of Congress?
     
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    While I greatly miss the legacy of the late Antonin Scalia (likely murdered... SCOTUS jurist); I do think that the 'Heller' decision (that he is largely touted for swaying / writing) was too restrictive of our Constitutional rights & will be amended within our lifetime...

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

    "Common use" is the essence of the debate; go figure, the most common use arms that we as a free people have amassed (by the millions / 10's of millions) are the ones 'they' are coming for....
     
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    Point blank wanting to ban assault weapons makes you a science denier
     
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    A .38 Special +P JHP (jacketed hollow point) round will stop a human target just as fast as anything else. Almost any revolver can handle the increased pressure of the +P round. I would consider going a step further and getting a .357 which can shoot not only .357 ammo but also the .380 Special and .380 Special +P rounds as well.

    9mm is a fine cartridge for a semi-auto but the caliber diameter (.9mm vs .357 vs .380) is such a small part of the overall effectiveness of a firearm. Bullet weight, bullet shape, powder grain and chamber pressure/barrel length all play a role in accuracy, recoil, penetration and expansion characteristics. They all have situational advantages to consider. They all suit some shooters and not others. Most importantly, they all kill when they go bang.
     
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    You do not have a right to be on any and ever parcel of public property.
     
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    Lots of great legal hunting on State owned "PUBLIC" property... guess one would have to be a hunter, have a modicum of awareness, or be remotely informed to know this, lol...
     
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    Response to the above....

    Revisionist opining on the matter would be a tragic 'hoot' if it were not so integral to maintaining the safeguards of our free representative republic. 'Common use arms' being the cornerstone upon which our Constitutional rights hinge is a reality that our founders recognized full well... Esoteric, ineffective or novelty sporting arms are not spelled out in our founding documents as they would do little to thwart the top down encroachment of Gov. overreach / tyranny.

    The ability & potentiality of 'we the people' to stand up armed with a show of force to say STOP - you big Gov. can't do this - is what this US of A was founded upon... We the people are supposed to run this country through proxy; electing public servants to represent us in this Our government.
     
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    The fact you -can- be on -certain- parcels of public property in no way means you have the legal right to be on -every- parcel of public property.
     
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