Failing the children of California

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  1. dairyair

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    Was he a catholic priest?
     
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    Again, not sure how,posting something that doesn't say he was attracted to or had sex with a minor, let alone a repubescent child in any way helps you?

    Except you have no evidence to support this claim.
     
  3. dairyair

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    What kind of world do you live in? Does it have any fact based substance?
     
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    So there's a marriage certificate?
     
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    Does it mean sex with a minor, or prepubescent child?


    I've refuted that already.
    Still no evidence of attraction or sex with a prepubescent child.

    Do you even know what pedophile means? Do you know what evidence means?
     
  6. Your Best Friend

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    It means a sixteen year old is below the age of consent.
    Therefore living with a minor and and treating him as if he were a spouse is pedophilia.



    "Refuted" it how?


    I said nothing about a "prepubescent" child. You did.
    You are trying to redefine what it means for a grown man to prey on children.
    I obviously do.
     
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    If your argument is that prostitution won't stop no matter what is done, we are in agreement; my only question for you then is why make prostitution illegal at all? It makes no sense whatsoever to have an activity be perfectly legal on one day, and in the very next day of the calendar year be completely illegal. That's difficult to square up, at least for my rather feeble mind. If you don't want people to engage in an activity, make it illegal; if you don't care if people engage in an activity, don't bother legislating against it. It seems to me to be a simple either/or proposition.
     
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    Not according to what pedophoia means.



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    Pointing out it doesn't support your claim, because it doesn't say anything about having sex with a minor, let alone a prepubescent child. Do you know why I keep mentioning prepubescent?
    Right. Because we are discussing accusations of pedophilia. Prepubescent children are required for pedophilia.
    Uh, how? Pedophlia has a specific definition. You have not even come close to supporting the accusation he was a pedophile. You haven't even come close to proving he had sex with a minor.
     
  9. dairyair

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    I have never understood why prostitution is illegal. Other than some religious moral high ground.
    People will engage in sex, always.
     
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    A pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to children sexually. In California the age of consent is 18 so living and playing house with a sixteen year old (as Milk did with James McKinley) could be considered pedophilia though not a classic case and and as far as proving the two had sex that's just another desperate denial by you.

    If a man was living with a young girl and carrying on a relationship sex would naturally be part of the arrangement. Milk and McKiney were living in a "domestic partnership" and sex is a given. I don't need to prove anything. The thing itself is proof enough.
     
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    Prepubescent children

    In no way could that be considered pedophilia, as pedophilia involves prepubescent children.
    So you can't prove your claim. Thanks.
     
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    You must be wrong because with little searching I can find cases of pedophelia involving 16 year old boys, not that it makes Harvey Milk seem any better playing house with a 16 year old himself. http://www.thethailandlife.com/pattaya-pedophile-problem

    I gave proof. It is you who claim Milk did not take a young boy into his home and engage in
    a relationship which was sexual in nature. Where's your so called proof?
     
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    nope. pedophilia is the sexual attraction to prepubescent children.......
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/pedophilia

    you did not give proof. you gave a quote from a book, written after Milk had died, that doesn't say he slept with a minor, let alone a prepubescent child.
     
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    pedophilia
    n. an obsession with children as sex objects. Overt acts, including taking sexually explicit photographs, molesting children and exposing one's genitalia to children, are all crimes. The problem with these crimes is that pedophilia is also treated as a mental illness, and the pedophile is often released only to repeat the crimes or escalate the activity to the level of murder. http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1486
    child
    n. 1) a person's natural offspring. 2) a person 14 years and under. A "child" should be distinguished from a "minor" who is anyone under 18 in almost all states. http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=185
     
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    Look...I'm not going to try and argue with you over the meaning of pedophelia since
    Harvey Milk was guilty of child sexual assault in the state of California no matter what you call it. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Child+Sexual+Assault

    Good luck if you are trying to deny the facts of the situation. They are too well established.


    It says he lived a "middle class domestic partnership" with a sixteen year old boy. You are the only person I can find who thinks, for some unknown reason, no sexual relations were involved and no one disputes the two were playing house together. No one.
     
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    there's nothing to argue about. You are demonstrably incorrect. Milk is of course not guilty of anything, unless you can show me where he was convicted.

    yes, the fact remains milk was never so much as accused of molesting a prepubescent child, or even having sex with a minor.
    in a book written after Milk was dead. Nowhere in the book does it say milk had sex with a minor, let alone a prepubescent child. At best, your quote is hearsay, and it doesn't even support your accusation.

    Speculation and innuendo are not evidence. You can't support your claims.
     
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    You are a waste of time, a denier and a revisionist and not even a good one as Milk's affair and relationship with a sixteen year old Mike McKinley can be found many places (like here, for one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Milk) totally undercutting and putting the lie to what you claim.

    You seem to be one of those that simply sticks to a belief no matter what the evidence to the contrary shows. My time is better spent elsewhere.
    since my point has been made and documented.
     
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    Sorry, but you have no evidence to support your claim. You don't even know what pedophile means. The book you quoted from was written after Milk died. Nowhere in that book does it state milk had sex with a minor, or a prepubescent child.

    I've refuted everything you've tried to use to support your claim.
     
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    This is exactly what I mean when I said you were a second rate revisionist and denier of the truth. Read the book "The Mayor of Castro Street" and see what it says about Harvey Milk's boyfriend and sixteen year old lover, Jack McKinley. Take a hike.
     
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    I've read it. Nowhere in that book does it state milk had sex with a minor, let alone a prepubescent child.
     
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    This is liberalism and it is grotesque.
     

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