Faith vs Science?

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  1. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    Uh, whose ass does he kick?

    Not the greedy.

    Not the nasty.

    Not the criminal.

    Not the dictators.

    Not the cruel.

    They are all alive and doing well......so who?




    That poster said Jesus kicks ass.

    I asked whose ass.

    You didn't say whose.....neither did the other poster .....
     
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  2. FoxHastings

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    Yuppers, "good" Christians opposed mixed marriages....how un Jesus-like.....don't they believe that 'god " created everyone?
     
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    It does when I feel like it.
     
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    They try to pretend God didn’t create gays.
     
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  5. chris155au

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    Which is rarely!
     
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    Where does this say that MOST of them opposed interracial marriage?
     
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    "Many" or "Most" you play semantics to avoid the actual point....a typical tactic in defense of religion. Care to actually discuss the topic?
     
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    Uh huh. :yawn: :yawn:
     
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    Faith vs Science?

    There is no answer because these two things have nothing at all in common.
     
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    Are you an atheist?
     
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    I am areligious. My concept of god is different from yours.
     
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    What is it?
     
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    What you call god I call the laws of physics.
     
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    Wow. So what's needed is indifference? Is this idea common among the right?
     
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    "Free will" is THE REASON bad people are bad. ....and good people are good. Notice that animals are "perfect" with no ulterior motives, no hate, no evil intent.
     
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    Faith is trust and I think in order for science to work people need to trust. Science as a pursuit requires facts otherwise it wouldn't be a pursuit. Science as a way of thinking, doesn't necessarily require trust.

    Science is a method absolutely requires trust.

    faith is necessary in all aspects of life you have to go to bed trust him with the sun will rise the next day. Drive to work trust in you will make it that day. Faith is very mundane everyday common thing if you think about it. This is something we don't use very often. When you was technology that was developed by science but that's not using science that's using technology. science has a way of thinking is difficult if not impossible for humans because it's very unlikely that we can remove our own bias. In fact when conducting any form of science the biggest expenditure is making sure your or anybody else's bias does not cloud the test.
     
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    You would call yourself an atheist, right?
     
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    It absolutely does NOT require trust.

    The goal of every scientist is to falsify the work of others. Experiments must be published, peer reviewed, and duplicated by other independent scientists. If someone finds a flaw in a major paper, they get the golden peanut award. That is how careers are made.

    And then that flaw must be published, peer reviewed, and if appropriate, tested by other independent scientists whose goal it is to falsify the falsification.
     
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    in order to do that you have to trust that you can, and you have to trust that you doing it properly.
    not only do you have to put trust in yourself and in your method you have to put it in your peers as well. I
    everything you said here trying to debunk the need for trust supports the necessity of trust trust in your peers trust in your methods trust in your reporting so forth.

    You do not function in this world without trust.
     
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    I have come to understand that sexuality is more a field than a point. I used to think of sexuality as polar opposites - gay and straight. Then I began to see it as more of a spectrum. For example, one survey showed that something like 25% of all college women have experimented at least once with a lesbian experience. And I can say for a fact that about 20 of the 30 or so young women that I've dated, like women and men. There are plenty of men who are bisexual and even have relationships with bisexual women. It has also been fascinating to watch the truth of human nature emerge as the internet runs wild. The anonymity of the internet reveals many deep secrets.

    Then I discovered just how wild and crazy fetishes can get, from foot fetishes [which allegedly about 75% of all men have], to role plays, fire play, torture chambers, kinky KINKY KINKY stuff, right from the chambers of the Marquis de Sade, and some things that involve serious pain... Some people even have to keep a defibrillator in their sex kit, in case someone's heart stops. :eek: Slowly it began to sink in. Sexuality is perhaps one of the most complex aspects of human nature. There is even a fetish where a few men get aroused if a woman's third toe is longer than her second toe.

    That's when it really hit. Sexuality is all over the map. Sometimes triggers can have absolutely to do with sex at all. Drives, desires, and attraction are functions of the highly complex nature of the human brain. We tend to be straight. But every variation on sexuality that can exist, does exist. It is the natural order of things. And I came to appreciate that as a beautiful thing. We are highly sexual creatures. We should embrace that. It is one of the best parts of being human. No guilt. No shame. No sin. Just honesty. Be honest about what you want. So that's what I did. In my case, it was smoking hot young women. If I'm going to start all over again, and I have no desire to marry again, I see no reason to settle.

    I am addicted to beauty. And I love it.
     
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    Furthermore none of this is recent either.

    The biblical old testament documents that there were all kinds of sexual perversions including those with animals.

    All that the internet has done is enable us to learn the modern day extent of what has already been happening for millennia.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    So in a group of 10 people where 5 are men, and someone says that the group is mostly men, it would be "semantics" to challenge them?
     
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    Having faith in something in spite of the fact their is no evedence to support that faith is a form of menal illness. Belief should logically always be based on evedence, with the evidence being fully examined using critical thinking.
    If more people took that aproach in investing, we would have far fewer 70 yr old people wearing paper hats asking if you would like fries with that order.....
     
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    This is absolutely false. Animals have free will just as humans do. Animals make decisions and alter their behavior based on their experience. They also commit senseless acts of violence and cruelty. They simply do it to a lesser extent do to the fact that they have less cognitive function, and most "bad acts" are the result of faulty cognitive function in which someone believes they can derive a positive result from a negative act.
     

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