About the video you didn't watch before posting. Crockaduck? Really. That's not evolution it's Greek mythology. It was funny. It dismissed the fact that if a species were to branch from a species that there would be a record. Odd that we have all of these complete species and no evidence of them coming from or going to another. With all the species and all of the scientific know how it shouldn't be that hard to find the evidence. Instead all we get is the same run around and non answers we were taught in college, the 70's, i.e. things like, "it's too complicated". BS. There's nothing new or challenging. We're supposed to simply accept evolution because someone is supposed to be smarter despite the incredible lack of evidence.
Clearly it is not I who did not watch said video as the Crokaduck was an invention of Kirk Cameron as the Video states. You know...the childhood TV guy who now preaches about Jesus and debunks evolution.
Incorrect. Nobody has provided evidence and I've never asked for proof. That's because science doesn't prove anything. Ever. I'm asking for EVIDENCE. It's an assumption and not a reasonable explanation. It's based totally on extrapolation and not evidence. Which should produce evidence of those species gradually transitioning into another species. Where is that evidence? Correct, and this is exactly what I've been saying. However, evolution is taught as a fact more than a theory otherwise the people on this thread would realize that and would stop trying to make something from something of which the evidence is incredibly lacking.
Maybe you should watch it. But why would you? You didn't watch the other video you put up. C'mon, try something besides the usual tripe you get from a "quick google" search. Produce some real evidence. I'm trying very serious about this but you keep playing silly games. Honestly, get serious.
I have just received an infraction for nicely calling Prunepicker out and will now place him on ignore to avoid any future issues. Apparently it is unacceptable to be honest about someone like that.
No, you have denied the scientific evidence I have presented out of hand and with no evidence. And, your position is denied by all biology, where evolution is a foundational principle. So, suggesting this is about me is ludicrous. You're in total denial of science in general and biology in specific. You ARE right that I have no interest in providing ANYTHING for you, as all you have done when presented evidence by posters on this board is to make sweeping and unsupported claims of irrelevance. So, why should I waste my time?
The problem is not that there is no evidence. The problem is that you don't accept the evidence while most everyone else does. That's OK but it makes little sense to ask for something you won't accept. It is argumentative and not very effectively so. Perhaps you should read the Origin of Species in which Darwin analyzes his observations (evidence.) Could he be wrong? Yes I suppose but there has never been an effective or even logical counter theory to his and after a couple hundred years that makes it a pretty good bet that may well be proven a long time from now. It is what it is. Continue to refuse to accept the evidence. I would say few people care.
All organisms share most of the same genes, but as evolution predicts, the structures of these genes and their products diverge among species, in keeping with their evolutionary relationships. Geneticists speak of the "molecular clock" that records the passage of time. These molecular data also show how various organisms are transitional within evolution. .
Of course it is based on more. If evolution can be proven true, it can hopefully damage many theistic ideologies. Not all, obviously, but at least it can provide a starting point. Note: TH, 1 Bethany, OK 520 Yards Also, just as one last note before call down, I've been getting quite bored, so my responses haven't been very detailed. If you have any other questions, or need specific assistance as far as Q and A, please call my cell phone, thank you.
Actually, I believe my issue is more with the ideology of those opposing evolution, rather than their opposition to it.
More correctly, there is little or no evidence. What evidence? Is the small amount of evidence supposed to compel someone to accept something that has more going against it than for it? Seriously? If evidence is that weak in a court of law nobody would be convicted or acquitted. So like others and yourself I'm supposed to roll over an accept this THEORY, i.e. extrapolation, guess work, uncertainty, etc...? I need more evidence that honestly shows the "evolution", that is, a species gradually transitioning into another species. And NOT before my eyes but in the fossil records and observations made. I have. You haven't. A strong part of my argument comes from that very book, that is, where is the evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species. I thank having read his book as being a good point for not accepting a theory as a fact that must be accepted. Of course he could be wrong and the incredibly large lack of evidence makes it a pretty good bet that he is. So what that there isn't another theory. That means nothing. Until the evidence honestly and truly shows the theory of evolution to be more than a theory then I'm going to continue to ask for solid evidence and not the same old hashed over discussion that hasn't changed the theory in since the 1800's. Good grief.
If you'll read the information before posting you'll find that the molecular data "suggests" that there may be transitional organisms. There is no hard evidence to say otherwise. But what can I say. Very few on this forum reads what they post. They do their quick google and read the headlines of an article then hope with baited breath that they appear to be knowledgeable.
[/QUOTE] I could try, though there are probably others here who are more knowledgeable about the theory of evolution and such.
Your beliefs are absolutely confirmed by science? I see, but can you please provide scientific examples of proof for the Bible's claims?
Oh. Well, as I've shown, my ideology opposing evolution is science based. I have no idea what yours' is except that it isn't science. If it was then you'd stop trying to make this a "religious" issue and stick to science and argue the topic accordingly.
Your religion, which you claim to be true, is as valid as the theory of evolution in that sense. You believe it to be true, so I only ask you to show the scientific evidence to support your claim. Also, the "science" aspect ends with your response of not seeing evidence for the theory of evolution. There is nothing more to say about that topic since no one can show you the type of evidence you want to see. Which again, no offense intended, but I don't understand why you are still here on this thread if that is the case.
Also, sorry for not clarifying. By ideology I meant your opinions that are based off of your religion. Also, it is not purely about science for me. As I've told you, there are others better qualified to tell you about that.
For your response to fmw, didn't you already accept the Bible's claims based on extrapolation and "faith"? What makes your religious beliefs any different than the theory of evolution? Unless you know of scientific evidence which can confirm with absolute certainty that your beliefs are true.
I recommend you "take up" molecular biology again because you clearly know little if anything about it; and speaking of references you have never cited any scientific articles/papers that support your anti-evolution position since you started trolling this thread.
Piling on with the same stuff is also a weak argument. I have read the Origin of Species and find it compelling. Most people do. You are an exception. You can stop arguing now since there is nothing new in your writing.
