False Flag Chem Attack On Day UN Slams US For Killing Syrian Civilians

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From what I have read, the deaths of civilians by the American coalition averages about 17 a day, and Assad is furious as to what he considers a deliberate genocide of the Syrian people. Frankly I'm curious to know what countries in the coalition is doing the killing? It's not unusual that the terrorists would plan a false flag terrorist attack on the same day as the UN blasts the coalition, since distracting from atrocities by the American coalition with false flag attacks has been habitual.

    As an example, right after the coalition bombed and killed 60 soldiers in support of the terrorists, there was a false flag attack on a Red Crescent convoy to draw away the UN's attention. The same with the attack by American jets on the hospital in Afghanistan. Immediately afterwards, the MSM made up stories about Russian jets bombing non existent hospitals in Syria.

    This is not the first time Zakharova accurately predicated a false flag chemical attack by an FSA affiliated group. She stated that on the 29th of June, 2017, the terrorists were planning such an attack in the Damascus region.


    “The militia plan to use it on one of the settlements in the Daraa province and then to accuse government forces of chemical attacks against civilians”.




    This all comes as the United Nations high commissioner for human rights, Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein said the following of the US attacks on Syrian civilians in the following way,

    “Given the extremely high number of reports of civilian casualties this month and the intensity of the air strikes on Raqqa, coupled with ISIL’s (aka ISIS) use of civilians as human shields, I am deeply concerned that civilians – who should be protected at all times – are paying an unacceptable price and that forces involved in battling ISIL are losing sight of the ultimate goal of this battle”.


    Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has stated that a Syrian terrorist group Shabab al-Sunnah is preparing a chemical weapons attack which it plans to blame on the Syrian government. "We have received worrying information. According to Russia’s information, the Shabab al-Sunnah armed group has access to chemical weapons”.

    Shabab al-Sunnah is a fledgling splinter group associated with the larger terrorist organisation FSA.

    http://theduran.com/russia-announce...lag-day-un-slams-us-killing-syrian-civilians/
     
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    The Duran again? Really?

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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For heaven's sake they're banning Ron Paul on Youtube, so how can I find out what's going on in the world. Thank God for the Duran, and for others with the courage to present reality to the American people.

    CORPORATE OWNED MEDIA

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    For heaven's sake, no "they" are not.
     
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    Since the Princeton Study evidenced and concluded the republic is dead, and we now live under fascism, Oligarchy, it is then logical to conclude that since our govt and the big capitalists are one and the same, when you tube shuts up Ron Paul, it is the same in reality as our govt censoring, pissing on the first amendment, in regards to Dr. Paul. For in the end, this is indeed what happened.

    Oligarchy finds the constitution as just a small hurdle to get over, or around, for it really does stand in the way of fascism. So, we will continue to see the cleverness of the ruling elites and while the constitution will still contain the same words, it will be moot, and in operation, nonexistent. And the frogs slowing being brought up to boiling temp will not even notice until blackness overwhelms them right before they are placed upon serving platters, to be consumed by the rulers in this oligarchy. And the frogs would not even crap in the frog soup to at least get one final act of defiance. I guess the liberal frogs and conservative frogs were just too consumed with fighting one another as the elites were getting their forks ready, and another live frog was pouring their very expensive wine.
     
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    Tell us more Alex!
    Of your last six string starts, 2 are from RT/RussiaToday, and 2 are from INFOWARS, the most infamous conspiracy website on the planet.

    While you and Russian agent Jeanettova whine about 'corporate media' and 'oligrarchy', Russia is ruled by ONE man and his 17 Billionaire Oligarchs/hostages.
    Russia has Only State Run/owned media, and Jeanette posts it every day.
    Russia is a one man dictatorship with No living opposition in the press or in politics.

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    Thank God for an extreme right propaganda website?
    Yeah, right, some people seem to be seriously desperate.
    OMG (and get rid of these stupid pics).
     
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    Seriously ? Wow .. This has gone way to far ... a number of youtube links I had have been taken down. Links that were particularly embarrassing to the establishment.

    This is very messed up to the point of being scary.
     
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    Well ... thank God for freedom of speech.

    Belief in freedom of speech is not belief only in speech you agree with (everyone believes in that) then you really do not believe in freedom of speech.

    Belief in freedom of speech is belief in freedom for people to express ideas that you detest.

    You are welcome to believe totalitarianism if you like but, it is not "seriously desperate" for others to hold a different opinion.
     
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    Well, none of that was part of the post you replied to.
    I didn't criticize or even mention freedom of speech in any way, no idea why you think you should bring it up.
    To claim everything in the so-called mainstream media is 100% lies and then turn one's attention to not only highly partisan but absurdly obscure propaganda websites thinking these sites give me accurate info is highly desperate and the definition of sheep in my book.
    'Never trust the msm, here check out breitbart, infowars, theduran, .... they tell you the truth' is more than desperate. You may disagree, fine.
    For the record, I'm not saying I trust the so-called msm 100% (have to be careful here, nonreflective black-and-white thinking is popular these days.
    Btw, absolutely no idea why you would bring up totalitarianism, has nothing to do with what I said.
     
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    Say something positive about Russia on this board and suddenly you're a Kremlin apparatchik. :wall:
     
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    Of course the mainstream media is not 100% lies. That is absurd and I doubt anyone that has a clue (about what a generalization is) has suggested this.

    That said, the MSM is full of a whole lot of misrepresentation, false narrative and the sin of omission (which is lying).

    Perhaps I misunderstood you but, did you not respond to "youtube banned Ron Paul" with "Thank God for an extreme right wing propaganda website ?" ?

    Were you not implying that you are ok with youtube banning Ron Paul ?

    In this case "chemical false flag" - Ron Paul is speaking the truth but regardless .. youtube should not be banning opinions on the basis that they conflict with the narrative "false or otherwise - false in this case" that the state department is putting out.
     
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    I can't remember commenting in the "Youtube Ron Paul" thread. Quote me there if I actually did but I'm very sure I didn't (sometimes my memory plays tricks on me depending on the level of coffee in my system).
     
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    I was referring to your comment in Post 8. I may have misunderstood what you were trying to say.
     
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    How does this thread end up in "conspiracy theories" section while thousands of "Russian collusion" threads are allowed to pollute every section of the main forum?

    The "Russian collusion" narrative is, in every single respect, a "conspiracy theory", yet it's allowed prominence on the forum.

    Why? Because officialdom (AKA notorious liars) and corporate media outlets are peddling it?

    Not that I expect a logical explanation from anyone, since the concept of a "conspiracy theory" is so nebulous as to be perfectly meaningless.

    It's just a vague term that is thrown around by the establishment and its apologists in order to shut down narratives that are critical of conventional wisdom.
     
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    I guess that makes you PF's resident CIA agent? I mean, we know for a fact that the US government and its intelligence agencies have all sorts of plants and moles pushing propaganda on a wide range of media platforms. The Church Committee revealed how the CIA was manipulating mainstream media narratives back in the 1970's. I suppose if Jeanette is automatically assumed to be a "Russian agent", then fair play demands that you be labeled the resident agent of the CIA or some other nefarious intelligence agency.
     
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    Who cares who Russia is ruled by? Do you live in Russia? Do you pay taxes to the Russian government? Is the Russian government demanding your obedience?

    If not, then why are you so obsessed with what is happening in Russia? Why do you use Russia's problems as an excuse for the problems in America? Do you think by attacking Russia you make America's problems seem less important or worthy of discussion? Or are you one of these people who thinks the only way to be patriotic is to mindlessly defend everything about America and never acknowledge the serious problems that this country is facing?
     
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    Hey brilliant one, there are 35,500 registered newspapers in Russia and more than 83,000 active media outlets in The Russian Federation, and they broadcast information in 102 languages.

    In the US foreigners are not allowed to own more than 20% of any news outlet. So two years ago Russia decided to so the same thing, and cut down the foreign ownership to 20%.

    This of course set off the MSM propaganda networks, and they began their brainwashing campaign about Russia taking control of the press.

    What I'm writing here is from what I know in the past. It is information that is slowly and surely being hidden by google as the war mongers in Washington's deep state prepare their war machines.
     
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    Everything is extreme right propaganda except for the multi-billion dollar corporate media outlers that actually have the resources, ability and corporatist motives to spread propaganda
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me explain something. Everyone has an opinion, and they should express it. What freaked me out with the MSM years ago, and I stopped reading them, is that everyone was parroting everyone else. That's when I realized something was seriously wrong. Afterwards I found out that almost all the major media's in the world, are owned by six corporations, so that whoever owns those corporations literally control people's minds.

    So how are they controlling minds? Well for one, they never give all the news, and what they give is their own conclusion of the news. They use other brainwashing methods such as the following in the NYTimes... which is an out and out lie. They do this because they know that most people do not read beyond the headlines:

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    The piece is about minor technical election trouble in a district irrelevant to the presidential election outcome. Contradicting the headline it notes in paragraph five:

    There are plenty of other reasons for such breakdowns — local officials blamed human error and software malfunctions — and no clear-cut evidence of digital sabotage has emerged, much less a Russian role in it.
     
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    LOL
    Clearly the numbers you post are very detailed and 'Paraphrase Plagiarism'.
    Or at the very least withholding a source because you don't want the rest of the info from that source seen.
    The numbers fairly irrelevant in any case. NO one cares about the bear **** in Siberia or Vladivostok or 10,000 other localities.

    By all accounts, Russian media has been crushed under your uncle Putin.
    None of them would dare post any criticism, and many shut down, or like his political opponents, many Killed.

    Friday, 11 January, 2002
    Independent Russian TV shut down
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1754828.stm

    Russia's national independent media is closing down
    Russia's last independent national television station, TV-6, has lost a court battle to avoid closure.


    and that was 15 Years ago.
    Russian media is now in a Putin Death Grip. Shut down or Killed.

    How Russia's independent media was dismantled piece by piece
    Following the resignation of three editors from one of the last non-aligned outlets in Moscow, Meduza surveys five years of newsroom destruction
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...dependent-media-was-dismantled-piece-by-piece

    When three senior editors resigned from one of the last independent publications in Russia last week, it was condemned as yet another sign of the mounting pressures on journalists under president Vladimir Putin’s rule.

    According to insiders, the resignations came as a result of coercion from the Kremlin after anger over several recent investigations, including reports on the Panama Papers revelations.

    The head of the International Federation of Journalists, Jim Boumelha, described the resignations as “not only a loss for the RBC but also a major blow for press freedom”, adding that censorship was putting journalism, and journalists, at risk.

    Many fellow editors and reporters at RBC say they plan to resign too, while others have vowed to continue their work “until the first story is censored”.

    But RBC is not the first media organisation that has faced serious pressure to conform to Kremlin narratives. Since Putin began his re-election campaign in 2011, 12 prominent newsrooms have battled resignations, restrictions and closures.

    Here’s what happened, and where they are now:

    RBC 2016

    Allegedly as a result of pressure from the Kremlin (which Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, firmly denies), the news company lost its three top editors: Elizaveta Osetinskaya, Roman Badanin and Maxim Solyus.

    It’s too soon to say who will replace them, or what kind of relationship the next editor will build with the Kremlin and RBC’s liberal owner, Mikhail Prokhorov.

    When leaving his post, Soluys pointed out that police recently brought fraud charges against Nikolai Molibog, RBC’s general director, making it unlikely that Prokhorov will escape this conflict unscathed.

    Forbes - January 2016
    Because of a new law restricting foreign ownership in Russian media companies, the German group Axel Springer was earlier this year forced to sell off its shares in Forbes and other assets held in Russia.

    Negotiations with potential buyers lasted several months. Initially, it was assumed that 20% of the company would remain with general director Regina von Flemming, preserving a certain level of continuity with the previous owner.

    But the deal fell through, and businessman Alexander Fedotov ended up buying 100% of Forbes in Russia instead. The chief editor, Elmar Murtazaev, then quickly left the organisation in mid-January, citing “personal reasons”.

    After Murtazaev’s departure, Forbes hired Nikolai Uskov, a journalist with little experience in business reporting, as its chief editor. He quickly announced that under his stewardship, Forbes wouldn’t be about politics, though he vowed to remain “a thorn” in the side of the powerful.

    Russian Media Group – August 2015
    In the summer of 2015, Vladimir Kiselyov, the founder of the Federation Foundation, a pro-Kremlin NGO, suggested the creation of a “patriotic mediaholding company” to Putin.

    Kiselyov proposed merging “several television stations” and Russian MediaGroup (RMG) assets, such as Russkoe Radio, Hit FM, Radio Maxim, DFM, Monte Carlo and the music station Ru.tv.

    RMG, owned by a holding company, would then be sold to Gosconcert, part of the Russian Ministry of Culture.

    A consortium of managers, producers, and artists tried to buy out the owners, investment fund IFD Capital, but failed. In August, the holding company appointed a new executive director but he quit after a week, complaining about interference from the Ministry of Communications in the company’s editorial policies.

    In autumn, much of the staff at RMG, including most of the employees at Russkoe Radio, resigned.

    Today, the sale of RMG to Gosconcert is still being negotiated.

    TV2 - February 2014

    In late 2014, the Tomsk-based TV station, TV2 – one of the oldest independent television networks in Russia – was suddenly in danger of being shut down.

    Loyal viewers speculated it was because of its independent editorial policy. Tomsk residents even hosted a mass rally in support of the station, just as its shows were terminated by the agency in charge of broadcast licences. Internet and cable broadcasting ceased soon after.

    In February, TV2 launched a fundraising effort to keep the channel alive on the internet. An NGO called Sreda, a charity supporting independent media, art and sciences, came to the rescue and announced that it was giving TV2 a 7.5m rouble grant. Today, the station exists as an internet project and continues to produce video content online.

    Russkaya Planeta - December 2014
    One day in 2014, investors at Russkaya Planeta, an online news service, suddenly announced that chief editor Pavel Pryanikov was out, and new leadership would be moving in.

    Apparently due to one of the investors’ interests in “Russian cosmism”, the editors were told their staff was “weak cosmists”, and not up to the journal’s tasks. They were let go, and the site was redesigned.

    The station has since replaced Maksimovskaya’s show with a new program called Dobrov on Air, hosted by Andrei Dobrov, who claims to present the news “from a normal person’s perspective”.

    Grani.ru - March 2014
    In March, Russia’s attorney general ordered federal censors to block the opposition website Grani.ru, accusing it of publishing “incitements to illegal action”, including unsanctioned political rallies.

    Grani.ru was the first online news publication to be blocked in Russia, but it soon had company as the opposition websites Kasparov.ru and Ezhedvevnyi Zhurnal, were blocked for the same reasons.

    The site, which was struggling financially even before being taken down, continues to operate using an array of mirror sites, and hosts instructions for circumventing internet censorship. Though it still publishes reports about current events, its content is exclusively political.

    Lenta.ru - March 2014

    Also in March, not long before the annexation of Crimea, the managing shareholder of the company Afisha-Rambler-Sup, Alexander Mamut, fired the chief editor of Lenta.ru, Galina Timchenko.

    The reason given for the dismissal was an official warning from Russian state censors, issued because one of the website’s stories (an interview with a Ukrainian nationalist leader) contained a hyperlink to materials deemed extremist.

    More than 80 editors and reporters – nearly the entire newsroom – quit in protest, publishing an open letter calling Timchenko’s outster “an act of censorship” and a violation of Russia’s media laws.

    Lenta.ru’s next chief editor was Alexey Goreslavsky, the former chief of the pro-Kremlin website Vzglyad, where he had primarily managed the company’s relationships with various government offices.

    As a result of this decision, the staff who resigned went on to found the media outlets N+1 and Meduza, as well as a social media marketing firm called Fuzzy Cheese. Other reporters went on to find work at Forbes, RBC, Vedomosti and Arzamas.

    Dozhd TV - January 2014
    At the start of the year Dozhd, an opposition television station, published an online survey asking viewers if Leningrad should have been surrendered to the Nazis “in order to save hundreds of thousands of lives”.

    Afterwards, Russia’s biggest cable television providers started, one after another, dropping Dozhd from their coverage, saying it was in response to angry calls from customers upset about the Leningrad poll.

    Dozhd’s chief editor, Natalia Sindeeva, accused the cable providers of bowing to pressure from above, saying these companies admitted as much to her in private conversations. According to Sindeeva, Dozhd was being punished for reporting on high-ranking officials’ luxurious country homes, not the Leningrad poll.

    Before the end of the year, the station was evicted from its studio in downtown Moscow, though it has continued to broadcast, even operating temporarily out of a private apartment for several months.

    Dozhd has since been forced to change its business model, shifting its focus to broadcasting online to paid subscribers

    RIA Novosti - December 2013

    On the 9 December 2013 Putin unexpectedly issued an executive order liquidating Russia’s largest news agency.

    With Putin’s decree, the state, which owns RIA Novosti, set about building an entirely new news organisation in its place. The new outfit was called Rossiya Segodnya (the Russian translation of “Russia Today”), and Dmitry Kisleyov, the country’s best known pro-Kremlin commentator, was appointed as general director.

    In the remaking of RIA Novosti – once the most innovative and independent of Russia’s state media – most of the correspondents left, many of the agency’s news projects shut down and layoffs swept the newsroom.

    Some of its products, such as the legal news desk Rapsi and the foreign news translation portal, InoSMI, survived as separate projects.

    Though the original URL Ria.ru still works, the website is just an appendage of Rossiya Segodnya.

    Gazeta.ru - September 2013
    Before parliamentary elections in 2011, Roman Badanin resigned from his post as deputy editor of Gazeta.ru, after the website’s managers decided to remove a banner created jointly with a human rights organisation featuring a project to crowdsource reports of election violations.

    Mikhail Kotov, Gazeta.ru’s chief editor, said removing the banner was a purely commercial decision. However other publishers alleged the conflict was due to Badanin’s refusal to run an advertisement for Putin’s political party, United Russia.

    After the elections, the holding company that owned Gazeta.ru was transferred entirely to Alexander Mamut, a businessman who owns several other media outlets. By September 2013 Gazeta.ru had completely restaffed its politics desk, while many of the reporters who had covered the 2011 and 2012 elections had resigned.

    Kommersant - December 2011
    On the 16 December 2011, the Kommersant publishing house fired Maxim Kovalsky, the longtime chief editor of the daily Kommersant-Vlast.

    The reason for Kovalsky’s dismissal was his decision to publish a photograph of a voting ballot featuring an obscene word scribbled next to Putin’s name. Both Kommersant’s owner, the billionaire Alisher Usmanov, and Demyan Kudryatsev, the head of the Kommersant publishing house, publicly criticised the photo.

    Staff at the newspaper wrote an open letter supporting Kovalsky, calling his ouster an “act of intimidation”.

    But Kovalsky’s dismissal wouldn’t be the last time Kommersant found itself in hot water. Twice, in 2012 and 2013, Kommersant FM radio station lost its chief editors under rumoured pressure from the Kremlin.

    Despite the frequent turnover of editors and publishers since then, Kommersant remains one of Russia’s largest media holdings, though its executive managers increasingly face accusations that they meddle in the newspaper’s stories.
    You're a Russian Govt agent and Only post their State owned media, And only RT/Sputnik/Fort-Russ/theduran at that.
    Not that there's much choice.

    Your posts are SUBVERSIVE (and Treasonous if you're an American) as well as Spam, as they are all from the same sources, and repeated many times daily.


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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you posted means nothing, since anyone can make themselves the determining factor on what is a questionable source and what isn't? Even Pinocchio for that matter.

    The credibility of a source such as the Duran, is judged by its contents, and since I find the contents knowledgeable and honest, I respect the source. This doesn't mean I agree with all the Duran's opinions, but at least he presents them as opinions and let's me be the deciding factor on what to accept or not accept.

    One of the brain washing methods used on people who are easily misled, is to condemn sources that present reality and factual events.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mr. Ugly you're wrong. My quotes are not all from the same sources. But they are all from respectable sources and not from the garbage collectors like: BBC, NYTimes, CNN, NBC, CBS, etc. The following is a quote from Moon of Alabama:

     
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    Sure, anyone can interpret credibility into a source and if it fits one's narrative critical thinking goes out of the window; can be seen here on a regular basis. Cognitive dissonance is strong, very strong. I disagree completely with this notion that everyone can make themselves the determining factor regarding questionable or not, but that's a different story.
    According to your logic, me criticizing these websites means nothing, so you using them as sources also means nothing.
    Of course, everyone is free to read and believe whatever they want. The duran is by all half-way resonable accounts a highly inaccurate, biased opinion website, just like breitbart, gatestoneinstitute, and all those websites that are not there to inform but to manipulate and steer their readers into one, and only one, certain direction. It's not information, it's manipulation.
    Everyone is free to ascribe facts and reality to any source, even the most absurd ones. Trumpism is in full swing.
    Btw, Merkel is most certainly not in tears because of Assad. What nonsense (but if it fits one's narrative ...).
    I'll leave it at that.
     
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