Far more school kids die from a drug over dose

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  1. FrankCapua

    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't use pot, but the studies that show hard drug addicts had used marijuana should be paired with studies that show how many are there that used marijuana and never became drug addicts. I would wager that every drug addict had drunk beer. A gateway product?
     
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    Because legality means a reliability of supply and no threat of arrest for seeking out that supply.

    How many people in the US drink bathtub alcohol that can blind or kill then when they can reliably get safer booze legally?
     
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    Well you would have a point if it were legal in every state and federally, unfortunately neither is the fact, so your point is pointless ;)
     
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    Except states where is is legal have seen drops in overdoses from harder drugs and less harder drug use.
     
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    Yup same cooked statistic the legalization advocates have been puking out for decades, like Cannabis cures cancer :)
     
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    And you are an acredited scientist with years of peer reviewed studies behind your belt that qualifies you to call those statistics “cooked”?
     
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    What would be the point of such a march? To demand legislation making illegal drugs illegal? Makes no sense.
     
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    No and you have trouble with our initial claim "That Cannabis" is a gateway drug :) Like most advocates you're fixated on one single drug when MANY others were in fact made available thru the purchase of Cannabis :) Another bolstering effect of THC is it gives children the courage to explore other types of substances, just like having a beer leads to shots. You know, "Try this, it's no worse then smoking weed" :) How about you research how many children overdose on Adderall in states where Cannabis is legal :)
     
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    Except areas where marijuana are illegal, show the exact opposite of what you are claiming.
     
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    You still sticking with the one point like heroin is "THE" only other drug abused :) You ignore meth, crack, Adderall, prescription drugs and many other designer drug that are introduced by the drug culture that enjoys THC too :) How do you even breath in that tiny bubble?
     
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    your comments are absurd. your assertion that school shootings are ok is sad.
     
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    Cannabis has the same addiction rate as alcohol around 10%. THC may at one time been relatively harmless but todays concentrate are "NOT THAT"! That's one of the points that elude people like Questaerr. THC over the years has proven it's a progressive substance as todays THC percentages are 3-4 time the levels they were in the 50's and 60's. In some, not all, there will be a point where the user will acclimate to todays current 60-90% levels and some will need to progress/include additional substances to boost what THC can't get them to anymore.

    I quit using it for better then a decade "Job related" and after leaving employment I recently started dabbling in the concentrates. At first the effects were debilitating and after a few months not that big a deal anymore. The point I'm trying to make is, anyone thinking that THC is going to curb the use of heroin, crack, meth and other big boy drugs they are mistaken! In the end THC will just be a co-substance just like four fingers of 80 proof is with a oxy or a molly :)

    It's simply another substance to blame future health and mental problems on, just like Nicotine and Alcohol today..
     
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    Are you even reading the right post? Where is the hell are you even coming up with that nonsense interpretation LOLOL
     
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    You are wrong about so much in this thread.

    Marijuana is not a gateway drug. There is no such thing as gateway drugs. Most marijuana users do not move on to harder more addictive drugs.

    Alcohol addiction and marijuana addiction are not the same thing... Alcohol can and will kill you. Is connected with higher rates of crime, higher rates of car accidents, and higher rates of dependence.

    Marijuana legalization has already shown a decrease in opiate overdoses: https://drugabuse.com/legalizing-marijuana-decreases-fatal-opiate-overdoses/

    Marijuana is a great pain-killer. It works wonders for people with chronic pain and is much less dangerous than opiates and much less addictive.
     
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    Here in Massachusetts we have an astonishing heroin problem and it's not in the inner city. School age kids are dying from Fentanyl laced heroin and high grade heroin. I don't have any numbers about overdoses while in school but does it matter? Here there is less concern about this than what kind of guns you own. You'll never convince anyone that pot has negative effects especially casual users but I've never met a real stoner that was interested in any thing else but getting high. When a drug intrudes that much into your life how can you say it isn't a problem. We know the long term effects of alcohol and tobacco why are so many in denial about marijuana?
     
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    Same reason that conservatives went ape **** and invaded the wrong country after 9-11.

    Which caused far less deaths than drug overdoses or gun shootings.
     
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    Not In my case and the people I associated with. It wasn't a "Huge leap" to trying LSD, meth tabs, a dime bag of reds! Of course this is the bay area back when all the leftist were turn out substance over bullshit too! It's no different today, people that believe THC stops experimentation are just naïve believers in the propaganda invented to give Cannabis a good name, you know, like it's cures cancer, tumors and depression :roll:

    It's pretty revealing to have watched the evolution of Cannabis :) First the propagandist use medicinal to give the illusion it had some positive reason to allow. And then when Europe began separating the medicinal compound from the hallucinogen the media ignored that and decided to be "Somewhat" honest about the "WHY" and that was always to get high, not well :)

    A few of the propagandist ruse.

    Hemp can supply oil, we can make clothing/fabrics with it. We can feed livestock and make rope to tether them with. We can make carbon fiber and build car bodies and biofuels to run them on. We can make bird seed, cat scratching posts and burgers and lets not forget makeup, nail polish, HOMES too :)

    And what are we doing with the wonder weed after all those claim, baking our brains LMFAO :)
     
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    THC has been around forever, and widely used in the entertainment industry so why have we lost so many artist to narcotics if the weed was a suitable plateau, that's the $64 dollar question!
     
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    the gateway drug theory is debunked.

    also, not only should weed be legal, every drug should be legal. the government has no business telling people what substances people are allowed to consume. if i want to smoke DMT out of a lightbulb at the national mall, that's nobody's business but my own.
     
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    LSD is not a hard drug. Meth does not come in tabs. Nobody has ever called anything a "dime bag of reds". THC is a cannabinoid, not a hallucinogen. You sound like a shitty after-school special. You should leave the drug talk to people that are actually well acquainted with drugs, because you are very obviously full of ****.

    also, have you considered that maybe if people didn't have to meet drug dealers to get an overwhelmingly common and benign recreational substance people wouldn't know as many people that sell hard drugs
     
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