FBI arresting people for internet posts

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  1. dequ1

    dequ1 New Member

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    as Islam says 'God has no son' maybe what they are saying is that Jesus has no son. Meaning Jesus did not have sexual intercourse with a woman, like the Da Vinci code suggests and so many people believe.

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    BUT from a Biblical point of view, having sons or daughters, is not unLawful and NOT a breaking of any of God's Commandments.

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    And just as Jesus says to be 'holy' just as God is 'holy', does not imply that the only way to be 'holy' is to be a non child bearer.
     
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    examples of a person(s) who God has called 'holy' in the Holy Bible are mentioned all in the old and new testament.

    1 Peter 3:5 "For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:"
     
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    there is a difference between 'holy' marriage and 'unlawful' marriage.

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    what husband to a wife does not perform the marital duties of the marriage bed?
     
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    I am not a lawyer or a policeman but isn't a threat considered assault? Free speech has limits.
     
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    So, I dicern from your posts that you are confused.
     
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    that is true because without sociopathic rage from our libertarian founding fathers, we would have never defeated england for freedom and free market capitalism in American today.

    we must be patriotic Americans and direct our anger at the bad guys, not the good guys, and government force will work for us.
     
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    Is it Sharia you embrace?
     
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    No, why assume that?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then it is strange that you dismiss the Constitution when it's something you've lived behind your whole life.

    What country would you like to go live in?
     
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    Strange reasoning you have. If I live behind something, I should love it?
    I don't favor any country, they all are dominated by rulers.
    The U.S. constitution isn't a very great one at all, it leads to a large and corrupt government.
     
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    You can't say "let's go murder people" and not expect repercussions. That it is spoken on the Internet doesn't make it any less of an offense. As for a slippery slope to fee speech? Was making yelling FIRE in a crowded movie theater a crime a "slippery slope" as well?
     
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    The U.S. Constitution is without a doubt the single most important document written by man.

    More important then the Bible, Koran, Torah, Hindu Bible...etc...all put together.

    AA
     
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    The Patriot Act and the NDAA took away the 4th A. Now what?

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/ndaa.asp

    The Senate is set to vote on a bill today that would define the whole of the United States as a “battlefield” and allow the U.S. Military to arrest American citizens in their own back yard without charge or trial.
     
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    They need to redefine aspects of this law as it is needed but the way it is written it is too open ended and could be too widely interpreted.

    But we do need something similar to this.

    AA
     
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    You just did. Let's see what happens.



     
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    Being I've read hundreds of posts declaring, for example, that BLM agents needed to be shot, or that liberals needed to be shot, it's clear people usually can say such things without repercussions from the government.

    And that's how it should be.
     
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    no i didn't, i posted if someone were to say that the intent of the second amendment was to defend against government tyranny and believed that as true, they would be monitored by the government at the very least.
     
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    It only counts if you believe. Got it.



     
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    Saying "someone needs to be shot" and saying "everyone go to the nearest cops house and murder thier families" are not rally the same. A thin gray line perhaps, but still a line.
     
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    Black activist jailed for his Facebook posts speaks out about secret FBI surveillance

    Rakem Balogun thought he was dreaming when armed agents in tactical gear stormed his apartment. Startled awake by a large crash and officers screaming commands, he soon realized his nightmare was real, and he and his 15-year-old son were forced outside of their Dallas home, wearing only underwear.

    Handcuffed and shaking in the cold wind, Balogun thought a misunderstanding must have led the FBI to his door on 12 December 2017. The father of three said he was shocked to later learn that agents investigating “domestic terrorism” had been monitoring him for years and were arresting him that day in part because of his Facebook posts criticizing police.

    “It’s tyranny at its finest,” said Balogun, 34. “I have not been doing anything illegal for them to have surveillance on me. I have not hurt anyone or threatened anyone.”

    Balogun, who lost his home and more while incarcerated, is believed to be the first person targeted and prosecuted under a secretive US surveillance effort to track so-called “black identity extremists”. In a leaked August 2017 report from the FBI’s Domestic Terrorism Analysis Unit, officials claimed that there had been a “resurgence in ideologically motivated, violent criminal activity” stemming from African Americans’ “perceptions of police brutality”.

    The counter-terrorism assessment provided minimal data or evidence of threats against police, but discussed a few isolated incidents, notably the case of Micah Johnson who killed five officers in Texas. The report sparked backlash from civil rights groups and some Democrats, who feared the government would use the broad designation to prosecute activists and groups like Black Lives Matter.

    Balogun, who was working full-time for an IT company when he was arrested, has long been an activist, co-founding Guerrilla Mainframe and the Huey P Newton Gun Club, two groups fighting police brutality and advocating for the rights of black gun owners. Some of the work included coordinating meals for the homeless, youth picnics and self-defense classes – but that’s not what interested the FBI.

    Investigators began monitoring Balogun, whose legal name is Christopher Daniels, after he participated in an Austin, Texas, rally in March 2015 protesting against law enforcement, special agent Aaron Keighley testified in court.

    The FBI, Keighley said, learned of the protest from a video on Infowars, a far-right site run by the commentator Alex Jones, known for spreading false news and conspiracy theories.

    The reference to Infowars stunned Balogun: “They’re using a conspiracy theorist video as a reason to justify their tyranny? That is a big insult.”

    Keighley made no mention of Balogun’s specific actions at the rally, but noted the marchers’ anti-police statements, such as “oink oink bang bang” and “the only good pig is a pig that’s dead”. The agent also mentioned Balogun’s Facebook posts calling a murder suspect in a police officer’s death a “hero” and expressing “solidarity” with the man who killed officers in Texas when he posted: “They deserve what they got.”

    Keighley, however, later admitted the FBI had no evidence of Balogun making any specific threats about harming police.

    The prosecution’s case eventually unraveled – but in the process, so did Balogun’s life.

    The government’s own crime data has largely undermined the notion of a growing threat from a “black identity extremist” [BIE] movement, a term invented by law enforcement. In addition to an overall decline in police deaths, most individuals who shoot and kill officers are white men, and white supremacists have been responsible for nearly 75% of deadly extremist attacks since 2001.

    The BIE surveillance and failed prosecution of Balogun, first reported by Foreign Policy, have drawn comparisons to the government’s discredited efforts to monitor and disrupt activists during the civil rights movement, particularly the FBI counterintelligence program called Cointelpro, which targeted Martin Luther King Jr, the NAACP and the Black Panther party.

    since his release one week ago, Balogun has also been forced to confront the harsh reality of life post-incarceration: he lost his vehicle, job and home; his son was forced to move and transfer schools and Balogun missed much of the first year of his newborn daughter’s life.​

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ew-black-identity-extremists-fbi-surveillance
     
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    Supported the anti US Government, supposedly Islamic State..

    Islamic States are under The Islamic Nation.

    Islamic Nation and Islamic States are Qur'an legislated Governments, which means, they try to keep in lines with morals and values befitting to GOD's children.

    So if they support the well being of the children, GOD's Children, how is there opposition to US Government if a person supports the well being of the children of the USA also?

    Sentences with directive words such as; 'kill, destroy', etc... are like sentences such as, 'thou shall not kill', 'thou shall not steal'.

    directives. Directive sentences...

    2026. harag

    Strong's Concordance

    harag: to kill, slay


    destroyed (1), kill (44), kill me as you killed (1), kill me at once (1), killed (58 ), killing (3), kills (2), murdered (2), murderer (1), murderers (1), occurs (1), slain (16), slaughter (1), slay (14), slayer (2), slays (2), slew (11), smitten (1), surely kill (1).

    https://biblehub.com/hebrew/2026.htm


    What should citizens do if their own children are being 'killed', 'slain', by those in authority to do so and not receive punishment or sentencing?

    The US was founded upon the principles of defending the home and Country. Other Countries were founded upon other things.

    Keep in mind that the pioneers had to defend their homes from invasions and establish their own justice system(s). There were no buildings nor court buildings when they were keeping alive in the pioneer days of USA.
     
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    delade Well-Known Member

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    2 points...

    There can be 'false' Islamic States and Nation.

    and

    There can be false Islamic members as well as false assumptive misleadings.


    Just as some use 'Christianity' for a cover up for personal greed, some use 'Islam' for a cover up for personal purposes also.
     
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    Humans are humans. People Are NOT people(s).

    What do you do if The people have 'bad' human(s) ruling over them?

    Sit around until they have a change of 'heart'?

    Early US 'freedom' was to be able to defend autonomously apart from the Heads and Parliaments.

    But because the population began becoming diversified, Congress was needed to be set up to have Just representation(s) so that Just 'freedoms' could be upheld through 'Law and well regulation' of the general citizenry.

    Humans are humans. They do not become 'gods' when or/and if they hold jobs; even in Government.


    QUESTION:

    When was the last time you touched base with your home and Country?

    Visiting in your nightly dreams is dreaming. I mean really, physically touch base, as in plane tickets and airports..

    Or do dreams and dreamers bring them to where they are?
     
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    So your new word "ammosexuals" a thinly veiled reference to homosexuals, very cute.

    You probably hate Gays.
     
  25. DoctorWho

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    Consult a Physician.
     

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