FBI arrests leader of U.S. 'patriots' stopping migrants at border

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    Trumps fbi loves illegals and hates patriots
     
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    The ****er was an armed felon.

    The agents should have shot him.
     
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    Heck, an immigrant could have shot him on the principle of the Castle Doctrine, which is **** with someone at your own risk.
     
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    Crap, I came into this thread by mistake. I didn’t realize it was for anti American, pro open illegal alien and open border supporters.

    And the left says they’re for border security. Does anyone believe them now?
     
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    What would your illegal alien pal be defending?
     
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    If the democrats cared more about Americans then illegals, then this
    woudn't have happened.
     
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    That is why they arrested him, has nothing to with stopping illegals.
     
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    To april 2019, democrats continue to ignore the border crisis.
     
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    Is that all it takes?
     
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    He didn’t think that through, did he?
     
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    IMO, he's a hillary/obama/D supporter.
     
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    A number of these border vigilantes are using "patriotism" to rob and murder to make their own armies and cash and drugs.

    The rest of them don't try to stop these criminals even though the criminals loudly proclaim their, so few of these "patriotic
    American" do ANYTHING to "make America great".
     
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    Proof? Can you prove these people are doing exactly what Mexican coyotes do to their victims?

    And here we have another illegal first/America last open borders supporter.
     
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    Criminals shooting up border. Just an average tRUMPette
     
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    Wait, didn't you admit you weren't aware of the topic of the thread? Even after reading OP.
     
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    Dude (dudette?) this story is happening in my backyard, it’s all over the news. Illegals are overwhelming my city, why don’t you come here and offer support to the people you first wanted to be here and then didn’t want to be here if they were shipped to your city?
     
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    They don't care. They hate Trump so much they'll destroy their own country just to spite him. Problem is this is our country too and not only are we armed, but the military is and they love Trump so when the **** hits the fan, good luck to them. They should stock up on body bags. They'll need them.
     
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    I agree, felons should permanently lose all their constitutional rights. I'm surprised you agree with me on this actually, kudos.

    Wait what? I thought the left was against summary executions by law enforcement?

    Presumably he didn't try to shoot the arresting officers or he'd be dead. If he puts his hands up and officers see he has a firearm, should they just extrajudicially execute him on the spot?

    Perhaps you meant something else.

    The castle doctrine doesn't give you the legal right to shoot just anyone. If you have just exited a bank carrying a sack full of money and a shotgun you don't get the right to shoot bystanders making a citizens arrest.
     
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    They might have been able to legally stop the migrants if they had gotten permission from the landowners, and were acting as security agents on behalf of the landowners.

    The laws in that area are very liberal in granting landowners authority to use a gun dealing with trespassers.

    Most of the landowners in that area are very fed up with the situation.

    Another option might have been for the state to sanction an official volunteer to force, probably put them through a basic training program.
    Of course the particular state that this happened in here was New Mexico (which is a pretty aptly named now) and they are very happy for more illegal immigration.
     
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    New Mexico does not judicially, or constitutionally recognize that doctrine. NM has a "stand your ground law" that applies only to your home. Illegal aliens have no protection on land they do not own. Illegals are not permitted to possess firearms in NM.
     
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    Apparently he complied with the officers lawful commands. Surviving an encounter with police isn't as difficult as LW media falsely portrays.
     
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    Is he the "leader" or is that fake news? CNN and BBC specifically call him 'a member of an armed group', or 'member of border militia'.

    A member of an armed group detaining migrants at the border has been arrested by the FBI
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/20/us/border-militia-arrests/index.html
    By Dakin Andone and Artemis Moshtaghian, CNN

    Updated 9:59 PM ET, Sat April 20, 2019


    US arrests 'member of border militia' in New Mexico
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48000774
     
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    Leader / member is irrelevant IMO. The fact is the members didn't police themselves. As a result the whole group is stained, and LW gun regulationists have a new slogan, and poster boy. No one I've seen has lit upon the fact that no one was arrested for UNLAWFUL DETENTION.
     
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    I think he meant is ok to kill white people, but never people of color.
     

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