FBI Director warns on White Supremacy

When did Trump say that there is no problem?

 

Trump, speaking of housing discrimination. What is the ***** grabbing bigot doing exactly to fix things?

 

Society is not racist. Painting an entire group based on the actions of a few is the foundation of racism.

 

You made a false claim, I called you out, and you've been caught in a lie. Prove what I said is a fraudulent warped history or better yet, prove what you said is true. You can't so you dismiss my statement as a fraud. Sad.

 

Their numbers may or may not be dwindling, I have no idea, but violence in these groups seems to be on the rise.

 

Bringing up Byrd when talking about "white racism" destroys any credibility your argument might have had. Byrd had been a FORMER KKK member who turned his life around and spoke out against such groups in his adulthood and was praised by the NAACP for his civil rights work at the time of his death. Please stop rewriting history to malign a dead man. Whatever meme caused you to draw this association with Byrd (and I think I know the meme you likely have in mind), it isn't a replacement for reason and facts.

 

Really? Do you have any examples of that? I haven't seen any in the news.

 

So no examples of white racists being excluded? I thought not.

 

You haven't seen any examples of violence from white nationalists in the news? Are you serious? Dylan Roof, Frazier Glenn Miller Jr, Buford O. Furrow, Jr, James von Brunn, Robert Gregory Bowers, James Alex Fields Jr., Wade Michael Page, Adam Purinton, Alexandre Bissonnette, Anders Behring Breivik? You haven't heard of any of them? Those were some of the successful ones. Then there are several other terrorists who were stopped before they could carry out their attacks that I can go into if you want.

 

He did say that because it's true. I asked for examples and so far nothing.

 

Byrd is a bad example for the agenda you are trying to push. Straw men aren't going to change that.

 

You asked for examples and were provided with them with 2 minutes (before you posted this, actually).

 

Total BS.

 

IQ is no longer an accepted measure of intelligence. Your broad stroke statement is not fair as it excludes others with the same set of circumstances. Poor nutrition comes with being an American. If racism was going strong like people claim, why can't one person answer the question: What can a person of color not achieve due to racism?

 

Which, even if it were the topic, would be a terrible, terrible argument. Racism doesn't have to make things IMPOSSIBLE to achieve (as you weirdly assume), just more difficult. But societal racism isn't the topic. The topic is violent extremists.

 

And on the topic, people claim that we live in a racist society. The claim that white supremacy is a "pervasive threat to the US" is overstated as well.

 

Dylan Roof, 2015
Frazier Glenn Miller Jr, 2014
Buford O. Furrow, Jr, 1999
James von Brunn, 2009
Robert Gregory Bowers, 2018
James Alex Fields Jr., 2017
Wade Michael Page, 2012
Adam Purinton, 2017
Alexandre Bissonnette, 2017
Anders Behring Breivik, 2011

So all but 4 happened before Trump. 5 Happened under Obama. Should we blame Obama? One goes back 20 years. Many of these guys are mentally ill and I only found one who was in a white supremacist group or the KKK. None were planned orchestrated plots by white supremacist groups or the KKK. So, I would say this is a pattern of ongoing violence by white supremacists or mental cases, it doesn't signal a rise in white supremacy or the KKK. I don't see any evidence that these scattered groups are growing in numbers. If they are, their numbers are still low as a percentage of the population.

 

It would only be "on topic" if the OP claimed we live in a racist society. The OP is about extremist attacks, not racist society. And, again, even if it were topical, it is a bad argument.

 

See reply. None were plots by terrorist groups or white supremacists or KKK.

 

All of the above were white nationalists. And I never said anything about blaming Trump.

 

If you don't think any of these people were white nationalists terrorists, then you didn't even look into them at all.

 

What agenda is that? Just asking for facts to back up that assertion.

 

The agenda of pretending that Democrats are out there supporting slavery, segregation, etc and using Byrd because you somehow think that embracing a reformed white racist who went on to support civil rights and denounce white racism is maaaaagically somehow a support for white racism.

 

Of course, it's racist. Blacks, too. We've come a long ways in the past fifty years, but we still have a road ahead.