FBI seized child porn website with 215,000 users

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  1. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you can't help what you're attracted to.

    That's what the 2015 leftist message is.

    So is it right to punish these people for something they were born with?
     
  2. whatukno

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    I'm not sure what part you don't get. I know the conservative idea is that gay people are just like child molesters, but there is a key difference here. Gay people like people of consenting age (adults) while skeevy child molesters go after people who cannot legally consent and this is child abuse.

    Whether or not therapy could help these people I don't know, you might have a point that they simply cannot be "cured" of their pedophilia. But no one outside of groups like NAMBLA and apparently some conservatives for some reason, are arguing that we legalize child molestation.

    And by the way, no the 2015 leftist message isn't you can't help what you are attracted to, (no wonder you lot are confused) It's two consenting adults who love each other should be able to get married.
     
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    How do you know that?

    In other countries adult gays pay good money to male children for sex.

    A joke made about Brazil is that a tourist asked to a Brazilian airport attendant if it was true that in Brazil there is a great proliferation of pedophilia. The airport attendant told him, "no, but we do spread those rumors to increase our tourism business".

    And here in the US older adults look for 18 years old young men for sex because the enforcement of the law, otherwise here in the US it should be the same sex with children as in other countries.

    These old adult gays, mostly over 50 years old, are called "generous" because they pay for sex.

    And this kind of prostitution must be prosecuted and all those older homosexuals arrested.

    Same mental treatment given to adults with tendency of being attracted to children must be given to homosexuals and lesbians.
     
  4. Ctrl

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    Might point out that there are exclusively gay pedophiles, and they grossly overrepresent the gay community in society as a whole... Sandusky didn't have any little girls coming forward... but they don't want to talk about that. The only retort is there are MORE heterosexual pedophiles... and they like to throw the indescriminant into that category as well. The LGBT acronym suddenly becomes disenfranchised.
     
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    This is a strange situation. A guy looking at pictures of children to get off needs help, the person taking the pictures and selling them needs to go to jail (and probably euthanized depending on the severity of the situation, and the participants who take it to the next level and find a real child to abuse, needs to either be euthanized or placed in a protective environment where there are no children for them to prey upon after a lengthy jail sentence. A prison commune or death, about the only two ways of protecting the children. Haven't really heard of anything else that will work.
     
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    So a gay 13 year old is only attracted to adults and not other 13 year old's? Amazing, why does it not work that way for straight 13 year old kids?
     
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    True, this does present a slight question of principal, and how we're to approach such things based upon other things which are considered atrocious.

    For example, sites like (warning-graphic links) http://www.bestgore.com/, documentingreality, and crazy****, all allow you to witness the most unspeakable murders imaginable, but viewing such things doesn't mean that the viewer would do such things even if they knew they'd get away with it.

    Society clearly differentiates between sex with a minor and committing murder. But as a matter of principal, how does one argue that viewing one type of porn should be punishable to such a greater extent than the other?

    Another question arises; with such strict laws concerning child porn, why is it still so prevalent? What are we actually doing? Why is there still an outlet for those who're looking for it?
     
  8. Brewskier

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    Does that extend to people who do nothing else besides view this material in their homes? I ask because I have seen libertarians/anarchists argue that "possession" should not be a crime, only the manufacturer and distribution.

    Given your stated ideology, who administers the lifetime imprisonment and chemical castration procedure?
     
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    If gayness can't be converted, according to the left, what makes you think pedophilia can?
     
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    Good question. It's irrational to insist some are born attracted to the same sex, yet none are born attracted to children. If they weren't born that way, and it was somehow acquired, couldn't that be true for homosexuals, too?
     
  11. Brewskier

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    You "download" them when you "click and view them". That's your browser downloading the content and saving it on your hard drive. That's a crime.
     
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    You don't think there's a such thing as a homosexual pedophile?
     
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    The children being filmed are being victimized. People who support this material are creating demand for it, which victimizes other children. That this needs to be explained is quite disturbing.

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    Right, because children who stopped believing in the Easter bunny last year are totally capable of making informed decisions on who to have sex with, right?

    Tell us more about their ability to consent. Should prove fascinating.
     
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    It is that way, they just won't admit it.
     
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    As several others have mentioned, we've indeed taken a slide down the slippery slope. Like it or not, the door has been opened, and the precedent has been set. Others who engage in abnormal sexuality, or who'd like to engage in abnormal sexuality, have taken cue. Expect to see the same arguments presented for homosexuality, presented for all other types of abnormal sexuality.
     
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    Winner!
     
  17. Wake_Up

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    The same reason drugs are illegal, but so many have plentiful access to it, people scheme ways to skirt the law.

    A law, at it's very best, is nothing but a deterrent. It does provide the basis for legal action and prosecution, punishment, etc...but only after the fact.

    The only possible way to 100% prevent a person from doing anything is to kill them.

    Fortunately, the majority of the earth's population don't partake in such vile crimes, so we must accept, that even with our laws and courts, there will still be those who do.
     
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    Your avatar is a bit oxymoronic. Missouri was a slave state that didn't secede from the Union. But you probably already knew that.

    You're spot on, by the way. The flood gates are open.
     
  19. Brewskier

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    And we've already seen the end result. Up until the 1980's child pornography was legally sold in Amsterdam, quite possibly the most progressive big city on Earth. It was only through pressure from comparatively "conservative" countries like the US that they were shamed into outlawing it.

    There will always be a pushing of the envelope when it comes to sexual norms. What is normal now would have been extreme debauchery 50 years ago. Society will become more and more jaded, and will need more and more dangerous and exciting possibilities to explore. And, when you consider the contempt that some have for children to begin with (hindrances to the metropolitan one-night-stand, bar-hopping lifestyle), it wouldn't be a stretch to see those same jaded purveyors looking to children for their next sexual frontier. It's happened before.
     
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    Horse manure. No one has said that. Ugh. I've yet to see a single "leftist" condone child molesting
     
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    Never mind. I see it now. This is a contrived thread...designed to start slamming and accusing gays of being child molesters.

    That's underhanded and dishonest....even for this board.

    Carry on with the vileness. Even better...wallow in it.
     
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    heterosexuals are attracted to the opposite gender that DOES NOT mean they have the right to rape or molest the opposite gender, what part of Consenting adults do you not understand
     
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    I would think that the pedophile's are much more dangerous to society than the gay or lesbian crowd. At least the latter usually stay in their own general age group, while the pedophile's can attack and control helpless children. As far as dealing with them, you don't, you convict them, put them in jail, let the general population of the prison's take care of them, and if they survive, slap a 25-year sexual predator label on them. Even hard core convicts hate kiddie rapers........
     
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    I am all for prosecuting and jailing them, and labeling them as sexual predator's, however, it never seems that they actually arrest the people who create these sites, and the ones who do the recruiting for the porn industry. Underage children appear in porn movies all of the time, who and how are they recruited, you really think all those people, most of them girls, are actually 18-years and older? Who is keeping track of that. Porn is similar to the White Slave trade, which still occurs in the world today. It should be too hard top nail the top guns of the industry, because it is based on movie-television, how many people are qualified to work the technical side of that industry. Just like trying to take down a drug kingpin, you start with the small fry (not referring to the children of course) - a camera man, a recruiter, and throw the book at them, until they give up their boss, than you keep moving up the ladder. Wouldn't surprise me if you ended up with a few big time Hollywood producer's running this show, but it does take a concerted effort, and that effort appears to only be aimed at the people who watch the porn and circulate it, not the kingpins who produce this garbage..........
     
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    He didn't say leftists condone child molesting, he said leftists told us all that you can't help what you are attracted to. The question is, does the same sentiment apply in the case of pedophiles? Yes or no?
     

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