Fearing Antifa ‘Mayhem,’ Berkeley Mayor Wants ‘Free Speech Week’ Canceled for UC Conservatives

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  1. free man

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    Berkeley major wants to cancel 'freedom of speech week'.
    He is afraid that (god forbids) people from the right side of the political map will speak and this will cause the left side hooligans to attack the talkers and trash the city.

    Apparently in the US you are granted freedom of speech only if you say the right things.
    Right things being extreme left and 'progressive' which actually turns out to be kind of good old Bolshevism.

    If your positions are at the center or the right, you have no rights, because you are wrong.

    Earlier this week left wingers attacked Trump supporters in Berkeley, they even attacked their own, thinking they are NeoNazies in Boston.

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/berkeley-mayor-free-speech-week-canceled-conservatives/
     
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    I fail to see how Klan & Nazi's are in the center.
    Alt right is just a nice term for them. These guys are not the center.
    You republicans do not like the center, or moderates, so why would you include center in your post?
    The alt still have freedom of speech when they assemble with their riot gear.
    I also have freedom of speech to mock them.
    Or toss an occasional egg.
     
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    In today's violent left wing world they need riot gear.
     
  4. free man

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    So according to you any republican is a Nazi.
    Had you bothered to read the Nazi ideology you'd be surprised to find it is not very different than yours.
    They also believed that anybody who does not support them has no right.
    I'm not a republican but I believe in freedom of speech, which obviously you do not believe in.
    Thank you, they are very grateful to you that you are so open and allow them to speak and respond only in mild violence.
     
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    I can understand banning Nazis and KKK from events.

    their history of violence is notorious.

    The 1st Amendment is not a suicide pact.
     
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    Who gets to decide who the Nazis are? A bunch of under-educated reactionaries, many of whom have never worked or struggled a day in their life, screaming "NAZI" at people who have a different political point of view does not a Nazi Party make.

    In a country of 300 million I bet their "might" be 50k actual card carrying Nazis and another 50k that hold anti-semetic views.

    The left, more than anyone or anything else in this country, is dividing Americans up into conflicting factions.
     
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    Here's a hint - if they are carrying a nazi flag, they just might be a nazi.
    If they have an SS tatted on the side of their neck, they just might be a nazi.

    Just spit-ballin' here.
     
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    Trump is a weak coward, I remorse I voted for him!
    Whites shall begin to found whites parties and to fight for rights of white people given by founders and Constitution.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    All US Nazis and KKK have killed not more as ten persons while the last hundred years.
    Muslims and Lefts kill thousands daily.
    It would be better if Lefts & Muslims leave, not KKK.
     
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    The simpering defence of and normalisation of nazism continues unabated. Thank you, Donald Trump, for uncorking these snivelling creatures.
     
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    So we can ban the free speech oof Nazis. Maybe the 4th amendment for Muslims. Definitely dont need the 5th amendment for convicted criminals.


    What other groups can we strip of their civil rights without due process?
     
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    Cobblers.


    Useless dregs....
     
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    Crazy people have seized power in the United States for a long time. Now the consequences of the rule of the madmen are taking place.

    For example. As the New York Times reported on Sunday, "another longstanding racist tradition has been defeated." Cinema Orpheum in Memphis, Tennessee, refused the annual display of the classic picture of Victor Fleming "Gone with the Wind" (1939) with Vivien Leigh in the title role. The reason was the growing fears after the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, that the film romanticizes the Confederate States of America.

    What can I say.

    In America (the country, in general, young), there were not so many traditions sacred as the Chinese tea ceremony. And one of them was the annual demonstration of the classic not only for the inhabitants this, from recent times all more exotic, from the point of view of common sense, a country "Gone with the Wind" in "Orpheum" for the last thirty-four years.

    Furthermore.

    This four-hour picture collected at the box office adjusted for inflation of about three and a half billion US dollars, which is why it was recognized as the highest grossing film in the history of cinematography.

    The tape received ten Oscar awards, and actress Hatti McDaniel, who played the role of Mamushka's black servant, became the first black woman in history to receive an Oscar.

    ... First there was Charlottesville, where the clashes between the demonstrators, which took place a few hours before the planned demonstration of the movement "Unity of the Rights" in the park of the reenactment of Lee / Emancipation, led to the death of a woman and a dozen victims, and also "roused" the leftists throughout the country.

    Later, both the Democrats and many Republicans declared that Trump must would openly condemn the actions of ONLY the nationalists: "It is very important for the people of the country to hear how Trump describes the events in Charlottesville as they really did: it was a terrorist attack by racists," - Said, in particular, the influential Republican senator Marco Rubio, tightly, by the way, with Clinton - loser during the presidential race.

    But Trump condemned both sides.

    Now, along with the safari on Trump, they is hunting for the whole "culture of the South".

    Demonstrative contempt for its national history for the sake of the current political conjuncture, taking in addition such ugly forms - certainly will not be able to not have a major impact on the future of the country.

    Madness is contagious, after all.
     
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    As long as no one in the US recognizes the fact that here they defend the rights of the left and also the right scum ...
    Left and Right Scum, whose ideological aim is to abolish the Constitution and all its rights, including Freedom of Speech ...
    So scum, which simply abuses its present right ...

    I have no pity here!

    And yes, we in Germany have limited this right of Freedom of Speech and I rate this as super and absolutely correct! Our democracy can defend theirself and protects no one who wants to destroy the democracy and our fundamental, constitutional values, which are btw the same as the US values!
     
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    No one claimed they are.
    Regardless, they have the same freedom of speech you do.
    And leave yourself open to an assault charge.
     
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    Well would seem they define Nazi as anyone who advocates for "free speech". Based upon who they attack, a Nazi is anyone who supports Trump or Free speech
     
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    Antifa should be banned as well, as they are even more violent. Honestly, the KKK and Nazis tend to be non-violent in public and protests. They know they are outnumbered. The ones that are scary in protests are the antifa. Ask Seattle and Berkeley....
     
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    Yep, you got that right little guy.
     
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    Apple and Google say the SPLC gets to decide this.
     
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    Oh yes, nazis are well known for their peaceful behaviours. Yep. Definitely. The KKK, too. I mean besides the bombing, lynching, gassing, rape....just regular guys.
     
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    Some would say egg throwing is a western tradition, and a right. But of course I would never advocate anything that could be considered violent in way, shape, or form.

    Beyond a yolk: a brief history of egging as a political protest
    This week it was a Tory party conference delegate who got an egg to the forehead, but this messy form of protest goes back to the middle ages. So why, in Britain, is it nearly always eggs?



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    Egg on his face: a Conservative party delegate is egged during an anti-austerity march in Manchester city centre. Photograph: Christopher Middleton

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    It’s Britain’s most traditional form of protest: compact, versatile, eggalitarian (sorry), and loaded with the potential of being rotten. Even when fresh, organic, and free range, nothing strips a politician of his gravitas quite like a slick of yolk drooling down his lapels or shards of shell peppering his side parting. When they’re not being broken into retro bowls in the Bake Off tent they are being hurled at Tory party conference delegates by anti-austerity protesters in Manchester. We are, of course, talking about the humble egg.

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    Former BNP leader Nick Griffin leaves a 2009 news conference with egg on his jacket after it was disrupted by protesters. Photograph: Stephen Hird/Reuters
    Throwing perishables in protest has a long and often illustrious history. In AD63 the Roman governor Vespasian was pelted with turnips by subjects fed up with his punitive policies. Eggs made an appearance in the middle ages, when prisoners were regularly put in stocks and pelted with them. Elizabethan theatre-goers threw rotten eggs to protest against bad acting, which some might say is not so dissimilar to their use in the theatre of politics today. And in Middlemarch, set in the 1830s, George Eliot was familiar enough with the practice to subject Mr Brooke to the humiliating fate of a substantial egging during an election speech: “Here an unpleasant egg broke on Mr Brooke’s shoulder… then came a hail of eggs, chiefly aimed at the image, but occasionally hitting the original, as if by chance.”

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    Arnold Schwarzenegger after being struck by an egg at a campaign rally in 2003. Photograph: WireImage
    And so political history marches on with egg, tomatoes, cream pie, green custard, slurry, purple flour bombs and, erm, chocolate eclairs on its face. This week it was a Tory conference attendee, apparently laughing and waving a picture of Margaret Thatcher at protesters, who got an egg to the forehead. But no party is immune to the ovum. In 2013 it was Ed Miliband, egged during a walkabout around Walworth Market in South London. Jim Murphy suspended his referendum tour of Scotland last year after being pelted with eggs in Kirkcaldy by Yes supporters. And it’s not always harmless either. During the 2004 Ukrainian presidential-election campaign, Viktor Yanukovych was rushed to hospital after being hit with what many thought was a brick but turned out to be an egg.

    In the east they throw shoes, in Greece they practise yaourtama (the act of yoghurt-throwing as a form of protest), and in Ukraine they hang noodles on the gates of the Russian consulate.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2015/oct/05/history-egging-political-protest-britain
     
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    I think tossing that egg, or feces or urine, and it hits someone is called assault. Looks like the only way to stop this is to bring in enough cops to arrest people like yourself, and introduce you to the inside of a jail.

    Antifa is just another brainless radical group, who probably come from middle class homes, and were raised without boundaries being set by their parents. They were given prizes for losing, and turned out to be a bunch of losers.

    The only thing that will cure this, is for them to suffer the consequences of their criminal behavior, by treating like what they are...thugs, criminals.

    Equating right of center people with neo Nazis is like equating left of center democrats to communists and anti first amendment people. No one with a decent education, or intellectual integrity would do this. I think I just described antifa.

    I think more and more democrats are catching on that the violent antifa are not principled protesters, but rather just your common criminal thug. The sooner we start treating them as such, the sooner they will go home, or better, to prison to meet Horny Bubba, the lifer who takes Viagra and loves himself them little white boys. Because they squeal so cute. Yes sir, Bubba could cure these boys, and clean their acts right up fast like. Of course if we brought back the draft, and send these boys over to where you turn the infants into men, that would work too. It seems when we stopped drafting, the left stopped serving. And, then came up with absurdities, like safe spaces, and a hundred new personal pronouns, and against anyone's free speech but their own. And having to serve and go into combat would get rid of the evolutionary dead ends, that our laws which protect these people from their own stupidity would help to clean up the gene pool, so we stop producing these mental misfits, who then breed and produce more.
     
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    There is a history of the Nazi types marching and spewing their nonsense, peacefully and the ONLY violence has come from those who protest against them.
     
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    Democrats never thought Antifa acting on anything but their own behalf. That they were somehow connected to the Democratic party was/is fake news.
     
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    When was the last time any Nazis or KKK committed any violence other than fighting with protesters who come to fight with them?
     

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