Federal Appeals Court Rules DEA, Federal Govt. Must 'Promptly' Reassess Marijuana's Illegality

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  1. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Patients are being denied medicine that can prevent becoming addicted to opiates or stop seizures without the deadly side effects of anti-seizure meds such as benzodiazepines.

    Countless Americans are imprisoned for using this plant as medicine. So much for liberty and justice for all.

    Whether you agree with the research about cannabis or not is completely irrelevant. It is an individual's right to take the medicine they see fit. No law that restricts this right is just.

    If you want to continue putting people behind bars for using a flower with medicinal properties then you need to do some soul searching.

    Please, for the love of God, stop trying to control free people. Its wrong and it's impossible.

    If someone is committing a crime such as DUI, then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. That said, using that as an excuse to prosecute people for possessing the flower and extracts is the real crime here.

    We are supposed to be a free people. Let us be.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/javier...UPPBd-SMgYXShuVveEhxnKESzePzhSAs#1067cbc97be9
     
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    I agree, while I don't smoke, inside someone's home is their business, at the minimum it needs to be reclassified and decriminalized.
     
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    There should be no law on the books regarding self-medicating. It is nobody's business what I put in my own body. It is against my inherent human rights to prevent me from taking medicine that I see fit.
     
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    We are in agreement on this issue.
     
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    AS long as I and society aren't effected negatively, have at it...
     
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    the most negative effect on society as a whole is the cost, both in dollars and in human toll, of the war on drugs. Just let it go. People are gonna do drugs no matter what the law says. If you want to help then open the doors to rehabs and close the prisons for drug addicts.
     
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    That policy worked in Portugal.
     
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    It is the only decent policy
     
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    At the very least, nationwide medicinal access and allow states to decide recreational legality... at the very least. I think it's inevitable that it'll be legal and regulated in the not so distant future.

    In my city here in Texas you get less than a slap on the wrist for possesion of less than an ounce I think. Pretty reasonable.
     
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    While I’m happy they’re being forced to reassess it, there’s no guarantee they’ll reschedule. So color me cautiously optimistic.
     
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    It is in the que of issues for Democrats. In those states that are dominated by Democratic office holders, legalization is either already there, or in the works. The whole of the West Coast is solidly green. Wait until 2021, there will be plenty of Democrats in congress to push the issue, and President Harris will willingly sign the legislation.
     
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    The voters in the states made it legal. Democrats didn’t do crap.
     
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    Like the republicans that are trying to block passed referendums?

    This isn’t a partisan issue any further, it’s a common sense one
     
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    Voters who voted for Democrats. Is not the West Coast solidly blue as well as green? Have not Republicans been losing a lot of ground in Colorado? Has not Nevada also turned both blue and green? But then, the best marijuana in the world is grown in Oregon.
     
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    It really is a partisan issue. Illinois is about to make it legal, via the legislative process. The governor ran on legalization. I think I read somewhere that every state that is controlled by Democrats that hasn't legalized, is working on it. Republican state legislature have more pressing business restricting abortion and shoring up their voter suppression efforts.
     
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    I want it legalized nationwide at the federal level. Democrat politicians(nor Republican) did not legalize it, voters in the state did(except finally, extremely recently, has a state legislature done it, thank you Vermont, and Illinois is halfway there).

    Trying to credit one party when they were not the ones to do it is called partisanship. I know people from all sides of the equation(DNC, GOP, independents) voted in favor of it.

    I’d say you’re wrong. I’d say people from both sides of the aisle voted in favor of it(and those like me who are in the middle), not just people who claim they are democrats. In fact I know they did.

    Here’s how I know:

    Nearly seven-in-ten Democrats (69%) say marijuana use should be legal, as do 75% of independents who lean toward the Democratic Party.

    Republicans are divided, with 45% in favor of legalizing marijuana and 51% opposed. Still, the share of Republicans saying marijuana should be legal has increased from 39% in 2015. Independents who lean toward the Republican Party are far more likely than Republicans to favor marijuana legalization (59% vs. 45%).

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/08/americans-support-marijuana-legalization/


    Edit: and here’s a recent federal bill to make marijuana legal at the fed level, and it’s from..... a Republican:

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1227

    So some GOP people are trying. So no, not just Democrats.
     
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    So?

    According to the cited poll:

    Democrats overwhelmingly Favor Legalization.

    The Majority of Republicans are Against Legalization.

    Thanks for providing the evidence that makes the point that More Democrats are ahead of the curve on this issue.:flagus:
     
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    And yet the person I’m responding to is saying they aren’t doing crap and it’s just wrong. About half of republicans support it, so about half of the republicans in the states that legalized voted for it. Wasn't just democrats.

    You should try your stuff on someone else. You definitely do not have my number.
     
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    I would have thought the democrats would be in favor of keeping the federal law on the books. Anyone who smokes or uses it for medicinal purposes is federally prohibited from purchasing a firearm.
    Personally, I say legalize it, tax the piss out it, and treat anyone under the influence the same as if they were under the influence of alcohol. Oh, and since second hand smoke can be an issue, one should have the right to sue those who smoke while out public spaces.
     
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    I agree except for the very last part. I would like coffee shops you can partake in. Like a bar for alcohol.
     
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    Me too but there is no such thing as second hand alcohol and in a world where lefties are mandating I cannot use a plastic straw in that coffee shop I think it's only right to ask them to be tolerant of a young child's exposure because to their desire to get high in that same coffee shop.
    You do understand the lefties are banning vaping of pure water vapor in many of the progressive cities across America.
     
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    This is where you righties drive me nuts. You talk about the left wanting to control people. But in anything that matters, how your live, your right to choose booze, drugs, gambling, prostitution, who you have sex with or marry, the right of choice and EVEN the right to die, it is the right wing that wants to control you.

    Sessions would have shut down the legal pot business completely had he not been preoccupied with his lies and crimes. But you worry about lefties. If he had shut down the investigation and kept trump happy, he would have intervened and denied States rights once again.
     
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    it is not reasonable to consider possession of a God given plant a crime at all.
     
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    If they dont, another lawsuit will follow. SCOTUS will rule in favor of plaintiffs. There is no other right option.
     
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    I am not a 'rightie'.
     

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