Federal Bill Seeks To Block Sales Of Pistols Lacking Microstamping Technology

Microstamping is supposed to stop crime. The idea is that each round will be stamped with a number unique to the firearm and thus making it easier for the police to catch those who use guns in violent crimes.

Unfortunately, the technology is expensive, unreliable, and controversial. That won’t stop some politicians from trying yet again to require its use.

Apparently, ballistic tests to connect a weapon to a crime aren't enough...they want yet another useless hurdle so they can say they did something....sigh..the bad guys break serious laws like rape,murder, armed robbery,home invasions and carjackings every day...but these guys in their genius have come up with a 'magic law'...really?

Source: https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2017/...les-pistols-lacking-microstamping-technology/

 

its another scheme by the gun banning scumbags in office to try to ban more guns. anyone who think these clowns are trying to decrease crimes-rather than harass people who vote against them-is most likely living under a rock or are as dishonest as those politicians

 

Microstamping does NOT stamp the "bullets." It stamps the cartridges with a engraving on the tip of the firing pin. I wonder how many seconds it would take to file it off or just fill in with hardware store "liquid metal" - and after about 1000 to 1500 rounds the stamp has been so pounded it no longer leaves a usable image. It only works on an ejected round - so a simple catch bag solves that - or just picking up the casings.

The real goal is to create liability for gun sellers and gun owners - to be able to sue the gun dealer who sold the gun or the gun owner whose gun was stolen. It has nothing to do with preventing or solving crimes.

An economic effect, since the law such as in California grandfathers in existing firearms, would be to increase the value of existing firearms - and, of course, massive increase in firearms sales before the law is signed into law. The value of black market guns would go up, plus an increase in burglaries to steal pre-stamp firearms.

The price increase factor is the case for "antique" firearms. The identical double action revolver made in 1896 - therefore an antique - will sell for 2 to 4 times as much as the identical exact same model revolver sold in 1999, because it is not an antique and therefore is considered a firearm, plus likely was run thru the system in a gun sale somewhere along the way.

More info:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/08/foghorn/the-truth-about-microstamping/

 

According to a post by a recent anti-gunner on another former, the vast majority of guns in the hands of criminals come from straw purchases, corrupt FFLs and illegal street dealers who get their guns from the first two sources. None of these care one bit about microstamping.

 

is that the same antigun troll who was banned here?

 

There's a tough one to circumvent.

Let's see....carry a revolver, drop a handful of spent brass you buy online at the scene, buy a brass catcher, replace the firing pin, file it off....

I bet this piece of stupidity came from someone in California.

 

Nah, his English partner in ignorance.

 

Much easier to just order a new firing pin. It's also easy to get a new barrel which changes the rifling which impresses on the bullet as it exits the barrel.

 

Oh that idiot oK, you are right. microstamping can easily be defeated in 10 seconds. with a file. or replacing the firing pin. Something I do all the time on my competition pistols and rifles

 

It would be nice, if we lived in a world where you could identify which bullet belongs to whom.

I read the story on here I think, where a kid in america was shot playing baseball due to some moron shooting up in the sky, be good if these things could be connected let alone all the run of the mill murders/assaults.

 

good call on the consequences of this latest political dumbassery

 

Why do something that can be undone by criminals in minutes. All they have to to is take a nail file, and they can make a firing pin smooth in no time. Just ignorance,.

 

Fortunately, we live in a world where gun owners and manufacturers are smarter than the people that want to restrict their right to same. Every time California passes another inane restriction, engineers all across the country respond with "challenge accepted!"

 

The anti-gun left has no objective other than to make it as difficult as possible for the law abiding to exercise their right to arms.

 

You really need to hit the books and study up on what is considered a firearm.

An original Colt revolver made in 1873 is a firearm by every definition.

The Mauser commision Rifles of 1896 were removed from the Federal definitition under the GCA of 1968, however are still under criteria of exclusion of possesion by a Felon.

Firearms that are chambered for an obsolete cartridge not obtainable by usual commercial means fall into a different category.

If a prohibited person posesses and commits a crime with any firearm, regardless of type, prosecution is still possible.

Also, to clarify;

A clone or copy of a revolver made in 1873, if said copy was made in 1973 it is still considered a modern firearm.

Look up the pinfire guns as reference of guns that fire obsolete ammunition and how that relates to being a firearm.

Reference guns firing .44 rimfire, an obsolete cartridge.

 

How would microstamping connect a bullet to a shooter? The bullet is not stamped. Besides, most murders are committed with stolen guns. Right?

 

Never mind the microstamping on the bullet from the barrel...

Don't let them fool you: they want to make it as hard as possible for the law abiding to exercise their right to arms.

 

Just shows that the people who want to ban guns and restrict them have little knowledge of how they operate and the terminology involved.

 

In the current environment, the proposed piece of legislation will not be going anywhere except into the nearest trash receptacle.

 

Never said it would, but it would be nice where if you shot someone or something (especially someone or something you are not meant to shoot) something on the bullet could connect you to the shooting.

 

I am not trying to compare any parties intelligence, thats a game for fools who obviously have their own insecurities in respect of same.

I am just saying that if you could connect the shooter to the bullet it would be nice, same as technology that could connect a driver to a hit and run, or knife to the stabber.

Obviously if you like violent crime and people getting away with this sort of thing GTA style you would prefer the world to revert to the stone age where there was even more capacity to commit crime anonymously then there is now.

 

It would also be nice if people would not rape, rob, kill, or start wars. It would also be nice if animals wouldnt attack humans and meaty animals would impale themselves on your kitchen knife.

 

I agree, but the technological / moral leap to take away people free will is larger and harder then that to be able to connect more dots in a crime scene.

 

What you are saying is its easier to restrict peoples freedom (take away their rights, force them to obey all kinds of regulations, monitor them) than to find and punish people who commit a crime. I hope you can see where that leads.

 

No I said the exact opposite.

It is harder to take away peoples free will (which is different to the concept of individual freedom) then it is to improve science and crime scene to better match criminals to the crime scene.

Sometimes I wonder.