Federal government extends eviction moratorium two more months

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is beyond unbelievable. I don't even know what to say. I'll spare you the commentary and opinions and just give you the facts.

    The US Centers for Disease Control has issued an "order" that extends to eviction moratorium 2 more months until October (2021).

    This has been going on since March 27, 2020.

    If you own a property and have a deadbeat renter who is not paying you because they lost their job, you are legally prohibited from evicting them.
    They get to stay in that home. Even if you sell the property, the new owner can't do anything. You can't even demolish the property or decide to convert it into a different use. You can't kick the person out and live there yourself.

    And it would not be the least bit surprising if the government decides to extend this even longer. That's been a pattern.

    This is totally unconstitutional, but the federal government controlled by the Democrats right now is going to back this order up.


    Once these people finally get evicted they're not going to have many options. Most apartments refuse to rent to anyone who owes back rent or has had a previous eviction within the last 7 years. It ruins the tenant's personal credit record.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the steady drumbeat of creeping American Marxism. Forcing American Capitalist landowners to subsidize deadbeat citizens. Even after they have received extended unemployment benefits when there are jobs a plenty to be had. At the same time allowing over 1 million illegal invaders in so we can provide them schooling, healthcare and more welfare. If this doesn't break the bank, I don't know what will. Resist!!
     
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    HA HA HA....the government jumped on the tiger's back with their ill thought out Covid policies, now they dare not jump off lest the tiger shred them up.....the entire country is a Champlain Towers in waiting.
     
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    They’re defying the Supreme Court? They said they found no legal grounds after the SC ruling. How in the heck are they doing this? It’s not enforceable. This is illegal.
     
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    “On June 29, 2021, five justices on the U.S. Supreme Court agreed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) lacked the authority to implement a nationwide eviction moratorium. However, the Court also determined that the moratorium should remain in place until its expiration date on July 31. In a concurring opinion, Justice Kavanaugh opined that leaving moratorium in place would allow for “additional and more orderly distribution of the congressionally appropriated rental assistance funds.””

    https://www.nar.realtor/washington-report/supreme-court-rules-on-cdc-eviction-moratorium

    This literally defies the SC. How can anyone do that?
     
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    It’s called unconstitutional tyranny.
     
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    Guess they decided to emulate Andy Jackson, "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it.". Which begs the question, if the government or it's agencies choose to defy a SCOTUS ruling HOW can they enforce it? Dangerous ground here.....
     
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    This should be impeachable.
     
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    They figure that litigation will take time so it will be extended anyway. They know what they are doing is unconstitutional.
     
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    The republicans need to file for impeachment right now. And any landlord that has a tenant that has not payed should evict them anyway. They’ll obviously win any court battle that came from it.
     
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    the right attacked the left for not getting it extended, now they will attack them for extending it
     
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    yep, Trump did this, just like Bush grabbed the tiger by the back in the Middle East

    the problem is, when you let go, it's gonna be ugly, so who will let go?
     
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    CDC penalties (and who in the hell gives the CDC the authority to put ANYONE in jail) are beyond reprehensible! What the hell has this country become?

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    It's an abuse of emergency powers.

    Congress has passed laws to delegate out huge amounts of their power to various government officials, departments, and regulators. In many situations these laws defining what exactly these powers are are vague. This would be especially true with emergency powers.

    You can be sure the CDC didn't think of doing this on their own, but rather the idea came from the Biden Administration and leaders in the Democrat Party.
    It takes on the force of law if the rest of the government doesn't do anything to stop it, and the courts enforce it, which they usually will.

    This type of tactic of a governor or president taking discretionary powers or emergency powers and using them in a questionable way is a pretty common political tactic. A lot of it goes under the name of "executive action". They can sidestep the legislature, implement a policy without having to enact a new law.

    When you realize how the system actually works, you'll realize what a joke the notion of "rule of law" is.
    Rule of law is more of an ideal.
     
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    The CDC originally announced the moratorium on evictions on September 4, 2020, which was originally set to expire at the of December 2020. This then got extended to January 31, 2021. Then it got extended to June 30, 2021. Then it was extended to July 31, 2021. Then August 1, 2021.

    And then, most recently, it was extended to October 3, 2021.

    So it has been extended six times so far.
     
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    Congress passed the CARES Act in March 2020 which prohibited evictions until July 2020.

    After that expired, the CDC originally announced the moratorium on evictions on September 4, 2020, which was originally set to expire at the of December 2020. This then got extended to January 31, 2021. Then March 31, 2021. Then it got extended to June 30, 2021. Then it was extended to July 31, 2021. Then August 1, 2021.

    And then, most recently, it was extended to October 3, 2021.

    So it has been extended by the CDC seven times so far.
     
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    Landlords are probably going to get extremely discerning who they allow to start renting their properties after this, more picky than they already are.

    They will want to try to reduce their chances that this could happen again.

    That's going to make the rental market very unforgiving to people who have any history of not paying.

    I think it's ultimately not going to be good for the renters either. Some unscrupulous landlords have a habit of demanding money from tenants when they are about to move out, and the tenant is coerced to pay whatever is demanded for fear that their credit history will be ruined which would make it very difficult for them to rent again somewhere else.

    Some landlords might even begin to demand that new renters carry insurance that will payout to the landlord in case the renter stops paying rent and the landlord is prohibited from evicting them. This will of course just increase prices and make it more difficult for renters with no history to move to a new place and be able to afford to rent.

    These type of policies will ultimately end up having long term consequences.
     
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    This is an ongoing cultural marxist revolution.

    If possible, check out Tucker Carlson show's lead news report tonight [FOX news channel - it's repeated at midnight central time.]

    The woke CDC just made an unconstitutional decree [CDC can't make laws] to extended the rent moratorium. But until it is officially stuck down in court... Biden's cultural marxists will make hay while the sun shines... and continue to usurp private property rights... and destroy the concept of private property itself... just like the evil bolsheviks did when they took over Russia.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Tuesday announced a fresh ban on evictions for certain renters just days after the White House allowed a nationwide moratorium to expire, putting millions of tenants at risk of losing their homes.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/eviction-moratorium-extended-early-october

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    I wasn’t a fan of this when trump started it. Socialism ran rampant during the covid pandemic. We have it a foot to stand on. After people got all that free money, free housing, free healthcare do you think we gained or lost conservatives to socialism/Marxism? I think it was a rotten idea. The whole dang thing! The economy should have never been shut down and all those handouts should have never happened.


    I mean they gave tax free unemployment for Christ sake.
     
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    There is also a sort of prohibition on credit reporting contained in the CARES Act, designed to try to help prevent people's rental history records from being tarnished.
    Protecting Your Credit If You Cannot Afford Rent | COVID-19 | Nolo

    "If you make an agreement for payment relief before you fall behind and your landlord qualifies as a "furnisher" of information to the credit reporting bureaus, the CARES Act prohibits the addition of negative information to your credit reports. (A "furnisher" is an entity that provides information to one or more bureaus for inclusion in a credit report.)
    Under the CARES Act, which amends the Fair Credit Reporting Act, if a furnisher agrees to let you make partial payments or forbear any amounts (called an "accommodation" under the law) because you were affected by the coronavirus pandemic during the covered period, that furnisher must report your account as current to the bureaus - so long as you weren't already delinquent on payments."​

    After CARES, Lenders Are Implementing Stronger Credit Requirements
    Lenders are having trouble determining if consumers are creditworthy because of the CARES Act requirement to report accommodated accounts as current. Because lenders aren't getting the full picture of people's ability to pay their debts, some creditors are pulling back on credit.​


    If the landlord agrees to renegotiate the deal and tell the renter they can pay a smaller amount instead, then they are not allowed to report that renter as delinquent on their debt.

    This might happen if the landlord decides it's better to at least get some money than no money at all while they are not allowed to evict the tenant. The cost of that is the tenant will be able to later walk away with any damage on their rental history.

    Let's say the renter should be paying $1200 a month, but they get the landlord to agree to a temporary $400 a month. Then they can later walk away from that and rent somewhere else and the new landlord will never know. The first landlord is kind of coerced into that. He can either take $400 a month, or not get any money if he wants to make sure it will go on that tenants record to punish them.

    It seems like a very interesting a setup.

    The tenant is practically bribing the landlord with part of the rent money to not damage their record.
     

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