Federal Judge In Sentencing General Flynn Drops Bombshell On FBI!

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No expertise is needed. dunning kruger in action.

    WEll at least you don't suffer from reasonable doubt. That would really be a bad thing considering your admittedly inexpert adjudication.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please provide the link that shows us all that Comey lied to Flynn about him not needing a lawyer.

    Flynn wasn't some security guard, he was the national security advisor. You think he might be familiar with all aspects of national security and ESPECIALLY counter intell investigations?

    naaaawwwwww. It must be somebody else's fault because flynn didn't know that lying to the FBI in an interview was a crime.
     
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    What kind of a nonsense post is this. Any idiot can sit in the peanut gallery, call names and demonize the messenger because they have no ability to debate the merits (or lack thereof) of the message.
     
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    Excuse me, you weren't just trying to be the messenger you were attempting to be the judge and jury too boot.

    You stated you don't need expertise. That is called the dunning kruger effect.

    AS to the merits of the content of your post, I can't seem to find much, hence the lack of weighty response.
     
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    In other words, Flynn is guilty, but the FBI broke protocol and tricked him into admitting it, and the judge is throwing out the confession.

    To the OP, this apparently equals Flynn being proven innocent.
     
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    Who will be the first to go to jail? Moeller, Comey, Hilary or Trump?
     
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    Hypotethically.If the USA were the county where the rule of law was implemented properly they would probably go to prison in this order: 1.Clinton 2.Comey 3. Moeller 4. Trump (any crime yet to be proven).
     
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    Sorry Mcabe not comey.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-did-not-warn-of-false-statement-consequences.
     
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    What difference does it make? The FBI brought Flynn in to question him about a conversation which was recorded by the FBI. They did not need Flynn. They already knew what was said. Also, it is very likely that Flynn knew he was being recorded and there was no point in lying.

    The one and only purpose was to get him into a perjury trap so they could blackmail him into testifying against Trump. It did not matter to the FBI that they were ruining Flynn in the process. Throw in that the FBI agents who did the interview did not think he was lying. This whole process is sick. There are a lot of people who should go to prison and Trump is not one of them.
     
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    Its reported that the FBI agents who did the sneak attack did not think flynn lied to them
     
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    Mueller got flynn on a process crime, not collusion with russia to steal the election

    It has nothing to do with trump but everything to do with an FBI acting like the KGB
     
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    Wrong. Yates wanted to prosecute Flynn for Logan Act violations. Comey sent Strzok to collect evidence. No warrant, no Miranda. The 4th & 5th amendments aren't contingent on arrest. Miranda guarantees subjects being interrogated are informed of those constitutional rights. Yates. Comey, McCabe, Strzok = dirty cops.
     
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    Isn't it sacrilege for you to sling BS on a Sunday?
     
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    Where is the BS?
     
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    What difference does it make? The FBI brought Flynn in to question him about a conversation which was recorded by the FBI. They did not need Flynn. They already knew what was said. Also, it is very likely that Flynn knew he was being recorded and there was no point in lying.

    The one and only purpose was to get him into a perjury trap so they could blackmail him into testifying against Trump. It did not matter to the FBI that they were ruining Flynn in the process. Throw in that the FBI agents who did the interview did not think he was lying. This whole process is sick. There are a lot of people who should go to prison and Trump is not one of them.
     
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    OK. Now that you have repeated what I said. Please tell our audience precisely what was wrong with what I said.
     
  17. Lee Atwater

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    "The one and only purpose was to get him into a perjury trap so they could blackmail him into testifying against Trump."

    "Throw in that the FBI agents who did the interview did not think he was lying."

    "There are a lot of people who should go to prison and Trump is not one of them."
     
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    Let's start with an easy one. How could the FBI agents know he was lying because they had the tape of his conversation.........and simultaneously not think he was lying when he lied about it?
     
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    How was it a perjury trap when Flynn had every opportunity (and obligation) to tell the truth?
     
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    How can you say Trump should not go to prison without knowing the contents of Mueller's report?
     
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    What crime was committed "by a lot of people" that merits them going to prison?
     
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    Mueller is an embarrassment to law enforcement.As crooked as it gets.No credibility.

    ...The 11-page report reveals that almost a month after Strzok was removed from Mueller’s team, his government-issued iPhone was wiped clean and restored to factory settings by another individual working in Mueller’s office. The special counsel’s Record’s Officer told investigators that “she determined it did not contain records that needed to be retained.”...

    https://thefederalist.com/2018/12/1...k-page-text-messages-before-ig-reviewed-them/
     
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    Go back to the purpose. Was the purpose to learn something? Obviously not since, they already had the information. Not remembering something correctly is not lying. Apparently the FBI agents only believed he was not remembering correctly and believed there was no intent to deceive.
    He was remembering evens which took place some time ago. I do not know the detail of what he was supposed to remember, but apparently the FBI agents did not believe there was an intent to deceive. Did they say to him "What you are saying does not agree with the tapes" Apparently not. At what point did Flynn discover that his conversation was not in complete agreement with the tapes?

    Why was he instructed that no lawyer was needed? Ultimately, that may be the key to the whole thing. I am guessing the original interview was intended to get nothing more than a clarification on the conversation with no intent to prosecute. Later McCabe, Comey or whoever, found some discrepancies and decided to exploit them.

    The judge is right suspicious of the whole thing and rightly so.
     
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    Prosecution misconduct.
     
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    Mueller didn't turn over the original 302s. Instead he wrote an addendum claiming that Flynn lied to others.

    If I were the judge I would hold Mueller in contempt until he comes clean.

    In a 23 hour a day isolated room right next to Manafort.
     
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