Federal judge rejects Manafort's bid to dismiss Mueller indictment

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    ...231 years ago? What the **** are you referencing?
     
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    Trump has a personal financial interest in the performance of his business. Trump refused to divest and separate himself sufficiently from that interest. Trump continues to pour tax payer money in his business. That is a conflict of interest because he could direct that money to locations which would not result in personal wealth or success for his personal companies, but instead chooses to explicitly funnel taxpayer money into those businesses.

    And at this point, I am going to request that you back up your claims. I have grown tired of your baseless accusations, misstatements, backhanded insults.

    Continue on a similar path and I will just ignore you.
     
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    Your logic is (seemingly) wasted on (and goes right over the heads of) Trump's deluded legions.
     
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    Kangaroo Judges in Kangaroo courts make bad decisions. Arbitrary search and seizure is allowed but, strictly for the purpose of going after said offence (collusion in this case) .. if used for anything else it is a violation of the constitution and the principle on which this nation was founded ... Big Time

    Just like when they stop you for DUI - and give you a ticket for not having insurance or some other thing.

    Every sitting member of Scotus should be removed for failure to interpret law and the constitution on the basis of the founding principles.
     
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    The judge has to follow the law............if not, Kleptocracy is around the corner.
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oooor, we've seen this exact comedy routine Multiple times already on various other issues and anyone watching knows what's really happening here.
     
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    Care to explain how the “other side” appointed a “Special Council”?

    I don’t believe they did.
     
  8. MrTLegal

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    Stop ****ing up then and the courts will stop correcting you.
     
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    The courts haven't corrected Trump at all. They try and lay roadblocks, which stall him, but how many have they actually won? Havent all these stall tactics gone in Trumps favor eventually?

    You're just wasting Americas time with your Liberal judges running futile, and predictable interference.
     
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    No, not in the slightest. As just one example, Trump had to drop and change his muslim travel ban three times just to get it to a position where it could appear before the Supreme Court.
     
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    But he did get it did he not? The court simply stalled the obvious.


    What other successes can you list? I'm interested in the success tally of this interference.
     
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    You miss 2017 or something?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/us/politics/trump-travel-ban-supreme-court.html


    So what other "successes" have you got?
     
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    Wrong and wrong. The USSC allowed the third ban to be enforced, and the ruling you cite just called for a more specific bill to be constructed by the legislature. Trump didn't write the law in question...he was just ENFORCING IT, as is his JOB.
     
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    The courts have not been able to stop Trump, they're simply wasting time and money...but it's all the angry Left has, and it's what they've been doing for decades. It will take time to unravel this routine, but it is happening.

    This is where the lefts power comes from, the bench. This is why they cannot accept Trump, because they don't want him picking the Judges.

    The Presidency is somewhat a figurehead, but the courts is where the left pushes through it's disgusting Anti American agenda...and it's why they're really upset.
     
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    The Lawless Left doesn't care. They don't care how many crimes of the Obama Swamp are exposed...all they care about is that they GET AWAY WITH IT....
     
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    Sooner or later it will sink in that Trump isn't going to quit, he's not going to resign, and the courts cannot help them. They will have to accept he is in Office until 2020 at least.

    If I were a lefty I would surely hope that my side came to grips with this soon, so they could actually put together a campaign that appeals to the people while there is time. So far, seems all their energy is going into these futile "get Trump" attempts, and not into developing a platform America will vote for.

    They take too long to realize this, and get their **** together and Trump will clean their clocks again in 2020, which of course I will enjoy.
     
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    I just want to be sure I have this correct.

    IF Judge Ellis rules that Mueller's appointment was flawed and he doesn't have the mandate to charge Manafort in Virginia, countering the ruling in the same basic issue in DC, simply causing another set of prosecutors to charge Manafort with the same crimes that were continuing through Manaforts time in the campaign (per both indictments), you will considered this a Trump victory??

    Okey Dokey....

    In unrelated news, Backstrom not expected back tonite....SAD!

    https://wtop.com/washington-capital...kstrom-not-expected-back-game-4-vs-lightning/
     
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    Funny, that when I have read the history of FDR, I cannot find your opinion in those books. It would take a right wing ideologue, to come up with your beliefs. In fact in one of the books that I read about FDR was that once he yanked some of the power back from our elites who were buying policy in self interests, he had to give some of it back because of ww2 production, but he had every intention of taking that power back once the war was over. But he died before the war was over and was not around to take back what he had allowed to be given to the elites. And that would have been coherent with what he did before the war. The man was not an ideologue but a pragmatist. He said that if something didn't work he was not wedded to it due to an ideological bent, but would try something else. This is one of the things that made him such a great president, at least in the eyes of the common man, that he was on his 4th term when he died. Now, you can look back and just call those voters stupid, and that would fit in with what you said about FDR, but I just do not think your opinion is based upon anything but ideology. Right of center ideology.

    Manafort? Money laundering or so mueller says. The not registering as a foreign agent is generally "slap the hands stuff" and in the past these people were given a time period in which to register and much of the charge would go away. Only with manafort have they made a bigger crime out of it. But that fits with a politically driven investigation, IMO.
     
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    lol. I guess it's easier to just assume your own conspiracies then to actually look at how the legal system is laid out. Change of Venue motions ring any bells? If the defense was so worried about a 'liberal' Judge, then why no attempt made to move?
     
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    Why bother? it will fall just as flat as the other attempts given the time.

    Conspiracies. ok, as if we hadn't already seen this same kind of stunt with the Border Wall, and the travel ban which both went Trumps way as examples.
     
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    So would that make you a Russian scum drip under pressure?
     
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    You appear to have attempted to insult me so go ahead be a man and make a clear insult instead of a veiled nothinburger!!!
     

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