Federal judge rejects Manafort's bid to dismiss Mueller indictment

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  1. AlNewman

    AlNewman Well-Known Member

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    So what you are trying to state is that to be president you should surrender all property. Of course he receives his due from the profits of what he owns. But please explain, if you can which I seriously doubt, why Trump, rich when he arrived, has to give up all while the other leaches are allowed to steal what they are incapable of earning otherwise, like Bush, Odumbo and Hitlerly. Could it be the ignorance of people with diseased psyche?

    But he did save the government a tremendous amount of money because the government purchased the property for another leech but he didn't like it. They were spending acres of money on a property no President used. What is really funny is this property, Mar a Lago, is just down the street from the old Kennedy compound.

    Unlike Odumbo, Trump spends weekends in places he owns, his property. Odumbo spent his time in places that without the taxpayer dollar he could never afford to even visit.

    But your extreme prejudice is noted.
     
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    AlNewman Well-Known Member

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    Well you got the anonymous part correct, as for the rest, it seems to be standard for you to comment authoritatively on that which you know absolutely nothing.
     
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    AlNewman Well-Known Member

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    Do you actually know what "venue" encompasses?
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The judge who ok'd the wall against a host of environmental concerns was initially attacked by Trump and yet still approved it. Not sure how that proves your point about Judges making decisions based on personal opinions rather then legal law

    And the Travel Ban judicial stays were part of lawsuits filed by multiple Districts. I think a district in a court of law is a different situation then the one your comparing.

    Looking it up I might have misused it in place of Jurisdiction, but I believe my point still stands. It was filed in DC, so therefore it stands to reason you'd see a DC Judge unless either side files to move to a different Jurisdiction.
     
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    Well the drip seems to be real, pressure not so much so that shoots "expert". Better luck next time.

    And just what is a nothinburger? If you are going to use ignorant slang, then perhaps you should learn to spell it: nothingburger, started by a gossip columnist and used by those mentally challenged with the language, most of DC.
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The comparison should be obvious by my statements. The left uses the court to try and stonewall Trumps agenda. These attempts usually amount to nothing but a delay action, that was the only point I was making there...and of course that it's a pattern we have been seeing played out. The left tries to advance it's agendas, or block others...through the bench.
     
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    You just described the far right, really you did. Thanks.
     
  8. AlNewman

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    Well so much for knowing anything about the justice system and I'm sure with a few more posts we can include law.
     
  9. AlNewman

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    You left out, certain courts like the 9th district on the west coast or even worse, DC which is nothing but Federal courts.


    It is time that the good behaviour clause is fulfilled.
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol
    Hobby Lobby
    Obamacare
    Transgender Washrooms
    Obama Immigration Measures
    Environmental Rules

    People, glass houses, stones.

    *shrug* Probably why I didn't go to Law School. Care to enlighten me, oh wise one?
     
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    No, education is not free.
     
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    I'm referring to the appointments clause.

    "and [the President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments."

    By any measure the 'Special Council" is an officer of the United States and must be consented to by the Senate.
     
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    Care to be more specific about those?

    Off the top of my head I recall hobby Lobby was a defense of over reach by number 2 on your list, Obamacare which stated they had to provide birth control which went against their religion. Seems a legitimate case to me, as we are supposed to have a freedom of religion.
    The SC agreed, and they won.

    As to the rest, you'd have to be more specific. What about "transgender bathrooms" exactly? That Obama threatened to pull funding from schools who didn't cater to delusions? Was that it? or something else?

    LOL...Obama immigration measures....
    What measures exactly? His open door policy, or his two illegal alien family members? What exactly are you getting at here?
     
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    Turnover over a day early. Under seal directly to th judge “through the classified security officer”. So the memo contains national security information.
     
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    Nice try, but totally incorrect. What appropriations bill, which would have an "HR" number, establishes the office of Special Council?
     
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    Not likely any national security information is contained at all. Just a ploy to protect the guilty.
     
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    I cannot make sense of this sentence.
     
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    You won’t get to see it, but the judge has if
     
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    Which word confused you? Seems quite clear to me.
     
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    Mueller as Special Counsel must be consented to personally by the Senate. That's my point.

    By the current construct no elected official has oversight of the special counsel. It's a problem, a big problem. Got it?
     
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    Of course you wouldn't, there is a huge difference between indoctrination and education. FDR was on his fourth term because of his socialist views, his wiliness to steal from others to provide for the undeserving. When comprehension is based solely on what one wants to be true, you have your version of history.

    Register, to beg. I don't register for anything so that in itself is a non-starter.
     
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    I would have to agree with you.
     
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    No he does not, there is no office to which the Senate needs to confirm. So you have no appropriations bill so there is no office.

    No, I don't got it. I'm not your slave and don't have to "got" anything, you got it?
     
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    Trump had to drop and change his muslim travel ban three times just to get it to a position where it could appear before the Supreme Court.

    Explain it to me Mello. The Trump Administration follows the rule of law, modifies an EO. This gets him to the SC better or faster how? It's freaking gibberish.
     
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    Oh ****ed me running... a second lieutenant in the armed forces requires Senate consent. By this measure the Special Counsel requires the same.

    Mueller has more power than say the director of the FAA, yet the director of the FAA requires Senate approval but Mueller doesn't?

    Odd, unconstitutionally odd.
     

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